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[Daza5056]

Soon ALL Section-16 machines will have to be removed from Bingo halls (and maybe everywhere else too)

Something to do with a new gaming law coming out which makes these machines illegal --- the manufactures found a loophole in the law, now looks like that loophole has been closed


Can anyone else confirm this as I can't find a link to the new laws --- I have been told my many managers from my local bingo hall that they will all be going soon

[CoasterDesignerpro]

This is true, however they will be replaced with category B3 machines which are upto £1 per go and £500 jackpot, i believe these will play to a percentage.

[jamesb99_1999]

Not long ago I actually had the 5 disks on cashino for the first time every at Bingo - Which I thought was impossible!!!!

[kingkallum82]

Did you get the 500 James?

[panhandle]

Yeah, coasterdesigner is correct, but from my understanding they just have had to get new licenses and the gambling commission have had to re classify the machines, mainly to keep the people who donate to the government happy (eg the super casino tycoons), but also to be seen to be doing something socially responsibile eg preventing youths sacking Dads saveloy money into a chipped king kebab at the chippy. The link to the following data is at the foot of the reply, but heres the very latest data on the new machine categories: Ps i presume that there are no cat a machines at present, but these will be the ones that will go to the regional (super) casino when ready. I also think there is a new opportunity that will allow a non monetary prize to be given aswell, so you will see vegas style bandits, where three car symbols will drop a new honda jazz into the metal tray

Category of Machine
Maximum Stake
Maximum Prize
Age
A
Unlimited
Unlimited
18
B1
£2.00
£4,000.00
18
B2
£100
£500.00
18
B3
£1.00
£500.00
18
B4
£1.00
£250.00
18
C
50p
£25.00
18
D
10p or
30p when non-monetary prize
£5.00
£8.00 non-monetary prize
18
no age limit


Category A Machines

Category A machines will only be available at a Regional Casino and will be the only gaming machines with unlimited stakes and prizes. A Regional Casino can make up to 1250 machines available irrespective of the number of gaming tables made available for use.

Category B Machines

Category B machines are divided into four sub-categories (B1, B2, B3, and B4) according to stake and prizes.
Category B1 machines may only be made available in casinos and have a maximum stake of £2.00 and a maximum prize of £4,000.
Category B2 includes gaming machines known as fixed odds betting terminals where the stake and prizes from an individual game can be rolled over into the next game up to a maximum stake of £100 per game (or £15.00 per chip) and a maximum prize of £500.00. These machines will only be available in casinos and licensed betting offices. The licensed betting offices are restricted to making four machines available for use.
Category B3 machines may only be made available in casinos, bingo premises, betting premises and tracks with pool betting, and adult gaming centres. Bingo premises and adult gaming centres are limited to making four machines available for use. Maximum stake is £1.00 with a maximum prize of £500.00.
Category B4 machines will be permitted to be available in casinos, bingo premises, adult gaming centres, members’ clubs, commercial clubs and miners welfare institutes. The maximum stake is £1.00 with a maximum prize of £250.

Category C

Category C machines may be made available in all premises other than a Family Entertainment Centre (with a Licensing Authority permit) or travelling fair. The maximum stake is 50p with a maximum prize of £25.

Category D Machines

Category D machines may be made available in all of the locations where gaming machines of Category A, B or C are available. In addition, they may be made available in unlicensed family entertainment centres and travelling fairs. The maximum stake is 10p (30p if stake is in money's worth (tokens etc.)) and the maximum prize is £5.00.
There is concern that these machines are attractive to young persons and as such they may not be made available in such places as taxi offices, chip shops, late night refreshment outlets where the primary business operation is not gambling. Existing permits for these types of premises will be allowed to run their course but not renewed after the 1 st August 2006.
No person under the age of 18 years shall have access to any gaming machine other than those in Category D.
Specific Offences include:

• Permitting persons under 18 to gamble.
• Permitting persons under 18 to enter parts of a family entertainment centre where Category C machines are available for use.
• Permitting persons under 18 to enter areas where Category C machines are situated.

Licensing - Gambling - Classes of Gaming Machines

[impact]

you must have alot of time on your hands panhandle to type up the bacta info
one the in law in september is to have s16 or 21 in rooms with a max of 4 in eah room ie 1arcade 12 s16 4 x 3rooms why? mmmmm more tax as they would need cctv ect mmmm pay some1 every couple of mins to check each room blar blar tax that poor sod`s pocket on pay day mmmm tax tax tax

*****sorry it`s my day not my month it`s cost me £280 to get the car fixed today and tax tax tax on the brain and i am having a tax fit £50 an hour x4 and £47 for a ****ing loom and tax tax tax total £280 what toward a hoilday in the sun t cook will be clapping there hand`s*****

[panhandle]

lol impact, copied and pasted the info of course, hence i did reference it, as for fooking tax, i get shafted for well over a grand a month, then theres 300 NI (what the f*** that is for i dont know), student loan of 200 notes, and when i needed an op i had to pay 4K for it.

[DildoDez]

Category C

Category C machines may be made available in all premises other than a Family Entertainment Centre (with a Licensing Authority permit) or travelling fair. The maximum stake is 50p with a maximum prize of £25.


Should that read £35?

[nails]

Category C

Category C machines may be made available in all premises other than a Family Entertainment Centre (with a Licensing Authority permit) or travelling fair. The maximum stake is 50p with a maximum prize of £25.


Should that read £35?

i went to brighton and hove town hall to register for a permit, but was advised to to apply until the 21ts May, as they type of permit is to change. details are sketchy at best, but the government will advise local offices in due course.

[serviceenginner]

the main machines that the goverment want to out law is the fortune 2000 and intouch machines as there is no licence fee or vat payable on the machines as they are classed as lottery machines they were talking about only being able to press the start button once an hour they are trying to rush it throu as them machines take a lot of money and the goverment dont get a penny i emptied one the other day and it had taken £5800 in a week

[nails]

s16 on a percentage???? are we now talking semi random machines that can be forced???

[DildoDez]

s16 on a percentage???? are we now talking semi random machines that can be forced???

No - basicly just a casino video slot!

Long percentage cycle, lots of small wins to stop the percentage dropping too low, therefore keeping you playing but, crucially, not winning, before dropping in a big win every now and again.