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[g-man]

before the roulettes were limited to stake, there was a senario where you could stake £500 on the board, press start and see where the ball was going to land, if it was not in your area, switch the machine off and get your money back as void.

then it was limited to £100, though good for £300+

then the reset trick was removed, and now if you are caught voiding your stake, it is not refunded.

how do i know this, becasue he did ladbrokes for over £50k. ...

Who he?

Sounds well dodgy to me.

Would Ladbrokes really offer a reward to someone they knew (or even suspected) of being involved in illegal activities directed at their business?

I believe that physically tampering with the terminals, either by cutting/resetting the power or opening doors could be class as illegal.

I've known pro players who've claimed to have had offers of money from various manus to 'spill the beans' about various tricks, but I tend to think they are mostly just spinning a line in order to boost their reputations as 'top players'.

[Fergo]

IF CAUGHT RIGHT. There it is again. As long as people are selling stuff that MAY WORK IF YOU CATCH THE MACHINE AT EXACTLY THE RIGHT TIME, I'll share the best emptier ever.

On Austin Powers, get a Barcode and get Follow Me. Hold in the 3 hold buttons while the machine is showing you the sequence to repeat, until it tells you you've got it right. Repeat until JP.

Now you'll probably laugh and say 'thats old shit, it's not a method because the machine has to be offering the barcodes' - but it sounds to me to be about as useful as the information on offer here!

I dunno whether this has already been covered but I'm gonna say it again anyway: This particular "trick" is a guarantee because you can see for yourself whether the machine is in the right state first, without actually putting any money in. YOU HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN FIRST TO FIND OUT WHETHER AUSTIN POWERS IS IN THE RIGHT STATE YOU TOTAL f***NUT.

[Fergo]

just been having a drink in my local,when a mate who ive never seen for 5/6 years walks in
he is an odds compiler for bet fred and insists there is no chance of any cheat with any bookies roulette machine
his words not mine
which adds to the 6 or 7 people,who i know,have a bit of a clue about fobts
there is no cheats,just mugs

You officially don't know anything about anything. As has been said countless times already on this thread, there is no way of scamming the RNG (you could probably do to ask your mate the CEO of World Gambling Corp to explain what an RNG does) on a FOBT. This "trick," which admittedly is limited in its uses and isn't going to make you much more than a tenner, has nothing to do with scamming or fooling the RNG, it is merely exploiting an oversight in the design of the particular roulette game in question.

[£6 In Tokens]

I dunno whether this has already been covered but I'm gonna say it again anyway: This particular "trick" is a guarantee because you can see for yourself whether the machine is in the right state first, without actually putting any money in. YOU HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN FIRST TO FIND OUT WHETHER AUSTIN POWERS IS IN THE RIGHT STATE YOU TOTAL f***NUT.

Here he goes moaning again. He is turning me into a moaner, moaning about him moaning.

At the end of the day = A pointless "trick" to win not very much.

Carry on this moaning and I'll end up doing nothing but moaning about you moaning - Lol.

:devil:

[thejackal1975]

.....just for the record I was joking!! Serviceenginner, that was exactly my point mate, tricks and emptiers are classed as attempted theft - or in some cases theft itself!

People should not have to cheat to win. If you play, you play with what you can afford to lose, and if you do lose you should walk away and do something else. If you win...... well then your laughing !!!

[g-man]

.....just for the record I was joking!! Serviceenginner, that was exactly my point mate, tricks and emptiers are classed as attempted theft - or in some cases theft itself!

Sorry, but that's rubbish.

The majority of emptiers involve nothing more than pushing the buttons and are perfectly legal - it's only those that involve tampering with the actual mechanism of the machines that are illegal.

[thejackal1975]

hmmm... ok, point taken!

[nails]

Sorry, but that's rubbish.

The majority of emptiers involve nothing more than pushing the buttons and are perfectly legal - it's only those that involve tampering with the actual mechanism of the machines that are illegal.

sorry m8 but i have to stop you there. you may recall recently that somebody armed with a bag of 10p`s went in and done the random spinner trick. he only pressed buttons and did not turn off the power or force open any doors.

Emptiers are still a means of obtaining money by deception by fraudulent means.

[g-man]

sorry m8 but i have to stop you there. you may recall recently that somebody armed with a bag of 10p`s went in and done the random spinner trick. he only pressed buttons and did not turn off the power or force open any doors..

Was he arrested?
I'm not too sure what the 'random spinner trick' is, but if it involves using 10ps to gain free credits then I assume it's a means of tampering with the coin mech?

Or if it means using lots of 10ps,wouldn't that be going equipped with the intention to commit fraud?

Without knowing the details, it's hard to say.

[dtrmad2004]

Afaik the trick was to plonk in £2 worth of credits, press the reject button and insert a 10p at the same time, keeping the £2 worth of credits.

The machine still thinks you have put £2 in for that 10p.

Totally useless nowdays thou

Andy

[Alec]

Emptiers are still a means of obtaining money by deception by fraudulent means.

If anybody in power really gave a f*** about obtaining money by deceptive/fraudulent means then machines as a whole would be illegal.

Anything that levels the playing field a bit is fair play in my mind.

[g-man]

Afaik the trick was to plonk in £2 worth of credits, press the reject button and insert a 10p at the same time, keeping the £2 worth of credits.

The machine still thinks you have put £2 in for that 10p.

Totally useless nowdays thou

Andy

Oh yeah I think tried that a couple of times and couldn't get to work, but I never liked doing stuff like that.

Oh, and I still say that anyone who says 'emptiers are illegal' doesn't know what they're talking about.


*Some* emptiers - such as those that involve crowbars and drills - are definitely illegal, but those that don't require devices and don't involve physical tampering with the mechs are perfectly legal.

If someone can point to anyone having been convicted for emptying a machine simply by playing it, I'll eat my hat.

[Fergo]

Here he goes moaning again. He is turning me into a moaner, moaning about him moaning.

At the end of the day = A pointless "trick" to win not very much.

Carry on this moaning and I'll end up doing nothing but moaning about you moaning - Lol.

:devil:

1. I was not moaning. At all. Look up the definition.
2. You're not going to win this one. Ever. And please stop referring to me in the third person as if you're addressing the rest of the forum rather than having a direct pop at me. Shows a bit more backbone that way.

I was not arguing about the value of the trick, infact I agree that most of the time it's going to be relatively worthless, the point I was making was that Bencrest's argument was completely retarded because in the case of the Austin Powers "trick," you still need to put money in to find out what state the machine is in, whereas with the roulette trick in question it's a no-lose gamble because the machine is clearly displaying whether it's "ready" or not before you need to put so much as a penny in. The second point I was making was that the people saying "YUO CANT FOOL THE ROLETT MACHINS THERE RANDOM DURRR" are the actual idiots on this thread, because as has been said several times already the validity of this trick bears no relation whatsoever to the machine's randomness.

[£6 In Tokens]

1. I was not moaning. At all. Look up the definition.
2. You're not going to win this one. Ever. And please stop referring to me in the third person as if you're addressing the rest of the forum rather than having a direct pop at me. Shows a bit more backbone that way.

OK Fergo - Stop moaning about it then.

:devil:

[nails]

Oh yeah I think tried that a couple of times and couldn't get to work, but I never liked doing stuff like that.

Oh, and I still say that anyone who says 'emptiers are illegal' doesn't know what they're talking about.


*Some* emptiers - such as those that involve crowbars and drills - are definitely illegal, but those that don't require devices and don't involve physical tampering with the mechs are perfectly legal.

If someone can point to anyone having been convicted for emptying a machine simply by playing it, I'll eat my hat.

so g-man is just as guilty? you admit that your tried to obtain money by illegal methods?

if you try to rob a bank and are unsucessfull, are you innocent? no.

[g-man]

so g-man is just as guilty? you admit that your tried to obtain money by illegal methods?

if you try to rob a bank and are unsucessfull, are you innocent? no.

What are you talking about?

Sure I've *thought* about doing dodgy things, like the various switch-off / reset tricks - what fruit machine player hasn't at some time?

I've witnesseed it done by others hundreds of times, so I know it's sometimes easy money

But I've never followed it through.

My feeling has always been that if you can't do it legally, don't do it all.

Incidentally, I once found a machine that accepted 1p coins as 20ps.

I stuck around 5 * I p coins in it and won 50p...I thought of coming back with £20 in 1ps, but really couldn't be bothered.

Would I have been breaking the law if I'd done it?

I doubt it very much, but that sort of thing is a grey area.

As a [former] player I'm inclined to say 'fair game' to anyone who *can* be bothered.

["o_o"]

The trick does work but theres not a great deal of money in it although if you dont mind walking in and out of hills bookies all day pressing screens and being bored S****** then i suppose you will make a few quid. I think your best bet is selling it while your in the bookies as most of them watch you and end up doing it themselves anyway. Also people very rarely buy roulette tricks for the simple reason 99% of them dont work unless they see it working with there own eyes of course.
As for the none believers go and check out Hills roulette 8 its all there for you to work out if you got the noodles that is. If not your only other alternative is to buy it from someone, im open to offers LOL.

[alfie09]

bye bye..... its got less life left in it than me in a good mood at 3am... its over... every 1 knows it... no 1 wants to buy it..... but.. if ure interested, i have a tip for donkeykong?????

["o_o"]

Cant understand why you just didnt post it for everyone all them days ago?
Can i have donkeykong for free?