
A different view on Global Warming.
Started by Daza5056, Jul 10 2007 10:54 AM
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#1
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:54 AM
Strange thing to talk about when you are out - but I was in a conversation the other night with a few friends and we hit upon this idea that may be contributing towards Global Warming (well hey there is no scientific prove that CO2 is causing it - so here is another theory)
Think of a Microwave oven - then think how it heats up food that is inside, basically these are sound/energy waves that bombard the food and causes the + and - particles to react with each other causing friction and heat.
Now think of the World which is then placed inside the microwave oven - and the sound/energy waves are everyday signals such as Satellite signals, TV signals, Radio Signal, Mobile Phone Signals.... these all give off the same kind of waves but on a lower level -- so who is to say that all these signals floating around are not causing the Earth to warm up and causing Global Warming ???
This is just my theory on it - again no scientific prove, but as good as saying that it is a simple gas that everyone expires when the breathe anyway. Also the World was hotter back in the Bronze Age when there was less CO2 emitted.
First they said it was CO that was causing Global Warming - so we all had CATs fitted to the cars, then they say it's CO2 --- what next ?? Methane ?? Will we no longer be allowed to fart ?
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Think of a Microwave oven - then think how it heats up food that is inside, basically these are sound/energy waves that bombard the food and causes the + and - particles to react with each other causing friction and heat.
Now think of the World which is then placed inside the microwave oven - and the sound/energy waves are everyday signals such as Satellite signals, TV signals, Radio Signal, Mobile Phone Signals.... these all give off the same kind of waves but on a lower level -- so who is to say that all these signals floating around are not causing the Earth to warm up and causing Global Warming ???
This is just my theory on it - again no scientific prove, but as good as saying that it is a simple gas that everyone expires when the breathe anyway. Also the World was hotter back in the Bronze Age when there was less CO2 emitted.
First they said it was CO that was causing Global Warming - so we all had CATs fitted to the cars, then they say it's CO2 --- what next ?? Methane ?? Will we no longer be allowed to fart ?
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#2
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:58 AM
(if we ignore the ice caps melting cooling the North Sea Drift), why have some countries got cooler? Surely the microwave effect would be a continuos effect which would be more noticeable in busier climates??? Also the corallation between global warming and the hole in the ozone seem pretty accurate, although I am sure we could argue that in another way too.

J<br /><br /><br /><br />A man
#3
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:59 AM
Daza women dont fart anyway..do they ?

Mmmmmm...Sandy ive 'ad her ye know.

#4
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:10 AM
Daza women dont fart anyway..do they ?
No, we just pespire ...

Unless I'm layed in bed - then I fart .... Hehehehehee
#5
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:13 AM
Also the corallation between global warming and the hole in the ozone seem pretty accurate, although I am sure we could argue that in another way too.
Wasn't the ozone buggered up by using CFC gases ?? Nothing to do with CO2 or Microwaves.
All the ozone is anyway is 03
#6
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:33 AM
Isn't O3 a phone operator???
I personally think that the earth's climate is cyclic anyway due to our orbit. We have had ice ages and various temperature shifts throughout history - I think that our shift in climate is partly the natural order of our planet... Maybe exacerbated a little bit, but by no more than the life of a fly compared to man.
One thing that I do know is natural disasters have been with us for thousands of years, we are more populous than we ever have been as a species so when they hit they will by definition seem worse. The odds of being in the path of a natural disaster are increased directly in relation to population.
I personally think that the earth's climate is cyclic anyway due to our orbit. We have had ice ages and various temperature shifts throughout history - I think that our shift in climate is partly the natural order of our planet... Maybe exacerbated a little bit, but by no more than the life of a fly compared to man.
One thing that I do know is natural disasters have been with us for thousands of years, we are more populous than we ever have been as a species so when they hit they will by definition seem worse. The odds of being in the path of a natural disaster are increased directly in relation to population.
J<br /><br /><br /><br />A man
#7
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:06 PM
I personally think that the earth's climate is cyclic anyway due to our orbit. .
True - Our tides are conrolled by the gravity of the moon, so it is items that are in space that control certain aspects of life on Earth.
We also have no idea what is beyond our galaxy, maybe something out there when lined up with Earth is having an effect on our climate.
It's a bit like that film - Pitch Black that had something like 7 suns, every so many years they all lined up together and caused a total eclipse -- maybe if all the suns lined up together and focused their radiation towards Earth it would cause temperatures to rise.
#8
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:17 PM
True - Our tides are conrolled by the gravity of the moon, so it is items that are in space that control certain aspects of life on Earth.
We also have no idea what is beyond our galaxy, maybe something out there when lined up with Earth is having an effect on our climate.
It's a bit like that film - Pitch Black that had something like 7 suns, every so many years they all lined up together and caused a total eclipse -- maybe if all the suns lined up together and focused their radiation towards Earth it would cause temperatures to rise.
If I am understanding you right, we can expect no daylight for a while soon, and lots of bedevilled vampirus birds to attack

Just kidding - I think there are so many factors responsible for global warming that we are both right... I am going to get my eyes shined just in case

J<br /><br /><br /><br />A man
#9
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:17 PM
Hmmm. And I'll recycle my ASDA carrier bags and my tins and cardboard. And not forgetting turning off my lights when I'm not in the room. Oh, and not leaving my TV on standby too. Thats a real global killer.
All the above seem so insignificant when we continue to put fuel in motor vehicles when we have the technology to do away with it. And all because black gold (crude oil), is the currency of the world. So we are forced to use fossil fuels by our governments then green taxed to the hilt for the privilidge.
My contribution to saving the world? It's like trying to stop the flow of water from a burst dam with a tampon.
All the above seem so insignificant when we continue to put fuel in motor vehicles when we have the technology to do away with it. And all because black gold (crude oil), is the currency of the world. So we are forced to use fossil fuels by our governments then green taxed to the hilt for the privilidge.
My contribution to saving the world? It's like trying to stop the flow of water from a burst dam with a tampon.
#10
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:24 PM
don't get me started on global warmiing myths, had many a heated debate on this across forums. Spent enough time studying it and real data from the second largest library in the world housing data on the subject

#11
Guest_altharic_*
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:28 PM
Al Gore has been bleeting this point on global warming for yonks so a scientist thought lets see if he is talking bollocks remember the smoking threads where I have said the scientific data is flawed this kinda explains why.
You can see the vid and read some of the report on this site.
An Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fiction?
It was made in answer to this doc made by Al Gore.
An Inconvenient Truth (2006)
A classic quote being "The US Geological Survey predicts that by 2030, Glacier National Park will have no glaciers left." these are the same scientists that cannot accurately predict this weeks or even tomorrows weather.
Whose talking crap someone is..............
You can see the vid and read some of the report on this site.
An Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fiction?
It was made in answer to this doc made by Al Gore.
An Inconvenient Truth (2006)
A classic quote being "The US Geological Survey predicts that by 2030, Glacier National Park will have no glaciers left." these are the same scientists that cannot accurately predict this weeks or even tomorrows weather.
Whose talking crap someone is..............
#12
Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:57 PM
No matter how much is done to try and prevent further damage, some people believe that the damage is already done. We've gone too far to try and change things now. I think there's too many people not willing to do anything that cancels out the effects of people trying to do something. Sad though it is. Not enough is being done about the major causes. If we'd have done more 30 years ago then maybe it wouldn't have got this far, maybe it wouldn't have made any difference who knows. One things for sure 30 years ago it wouldn't have rained for nearly all of June and into July. I don't know if it's just coincidence or if the weather is starting to dramatically change.
It's scary if you start to read too much into it.
It's scary if you start to read too much into it.
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#13
Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:26 PM
then we would also have to do something about the natural warming and cooling cycles of the planet, the fact that we are geologically not long out of an ice age and as such the planet is naturally warming in parts.
Add to that someones going to need to do something about the earths milankovitch cycles so if someone would be kind enough to come up with some way of stopping the earths natural "wobble" and "tilt" in it orbit.
Add to that we would then need to work out how in gods name we are gonna stop these volcanic eruptions from happening from time to time seeing as they can put out more "harmful" gasses than america can in a good few years.....
sorry you did say major causes didnt you, unless you meant mankind which is having little to f*** all effect on the global warming myth........
Add to that someones going to need to do something about the earths milankovitch cycles so if someone would be kind enough to come up with some way of stopping the earths natural "wobble" and "tilt" in it orbit.
Add to that we would then need to work out how in gods name we are gonna stop these volcanic eruptions from happening from time to time seeing as they can put out more "harmful" gasses than america can in a good few years.....
sorry you did say major causes didnt you, unless you meant mankind which is having little to f*** all effect on the global warming myth........
#14
Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:36 PM
Well yes i was kind of referring to man made major causes that we can do something about, as opposed to geological occurences. I guess it depends which scientific findings you choose to believe. The ones blaming man, or the ones saying we have nothing to do with it. I have heard theories that it's all just part of the natural life cycle of the planet, and we shouldn't worry. It's all a bit much to take in really isn't it. ooooh my head hurts lol

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#15
Guest_altharic_*
Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:51 PM
Well yes i was kind of referring to man made major causes that we can do something about.
Thats the point theres no real hard proof that anything man is doing is actually causing any harm at all you cannot create a report on something based upon evidence that is weighted to prove a point climate change data is based upon massive estimations, over estimate too much and it causes massive weighting of evidence that may or may not be credible.
You base an estimate on 10 years its highly likely to be a better guestimate than 30 years such as what Al Gore is basing his documentary I posted the link to earlier.
Imagine for example unemployment figures if you base them on 30 years data and project them over a long period of time for example its 1960 and you take the 70s, 80s and 90s based on the current trend (1960) and the only factual data you have is the 60s by the time the 90s comes its probable that there would be more unemployed that are living in the UK hence the figures are bollocks.
#16
Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:26 PM
This may sound selfish but I do nothing to help stop global warming. I think that by the time it is getting really desperate and we are facing a day after tomorrow scenario we will be long gone and someone will have thought of a quick fix that puts the planet back in order.
The damage is already done now and all these things like lower our carbon footprint will only slow down the harm we have done so were buggered anyway.
The damage is already done now and all these things like lower our carbon footprint will only slow down the harm we have done so were buggered anyway.
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#17
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:32 PM
This may sound selfish but I do nothing to help stop global warming. I think that by the time it is getting really desperate and we are facing a day after tomorrow scenario we will be long gone and someone will have thought of a quick fix that puts the planet back in order.
The damage is already done now and all these things like lower our carbon footprint will only slow down the harm we have done so were buggered anyway.
In the example I was careful in what I used to show there may not be a problem for example, how many peaks in unemployment since 1970 have there been, winter of discontent, high unemployment in the 80s changes in the way they collate the data (work based learning aint counted as unemployed) I'd not beat yourself up over it they are talking shite.
#18
Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:43 PM
Well yes i was kind of referring to man made major causes that we can do something about, as opposed to geological occurences. I guess it depends which scientific findings you choose to believe. The ones blaming man, or the ones saying we have nothing to do with it. I have heard theories that it's all just part of the natural life cycle of the planet, and we shouldn't worry. It's all a bit much to take in really isn't it. ooooh my head hurts lol
I'll believe the the data that i've researched myself before i believe the politicians...sorry scientists that have propsed this rubbish
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:50 PM
I'll believe the the data that i've researched myself before i believe the politicians...sorry scientists that have propsed this rubbish
You mean the non specialist scientists commenting outside their field of expertise they wheel out to prove a point like asking a biologist to comment if the world is round.

#20
Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:35 PM
Jimmy Mac said: "unless you meant mankind which is having little to f*** all effect on the global warming myth........"
The global population has doubled since 1940. Add to that the industrialization, increased polution & pollutants pumped out, massive amounts of methane produced by cows and pigs to make those burgers & sausages churned out by mc-dogends etc, as well as how much land cattle (and oxen) can make barren by over-grazing etc then I have to disagree with you. Mankind has had a HUGE impact on this planet and is continuing to do so, destroying resources etc etc.
One day it will all be gone and then what. Go waaah? or say "oh eff they were right"?
The global population has doubled since 1940. Add to that the industrialization, increased polution & pollutants pumped out, massive amounts of methane produced by cows and pigs to make those burgers & sausages churned out by mc-dogends etc, as well as how much land cattle (and oxen) can make barren by over-grazing etc then I have to disagree with you. Mankind has had a HUGE impact on this planet and is continuing to do so, destroying resources etc etc.
One day it will all be gone and then what. Go waaah? or say "oh eff they were right"?
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