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#1 carlosgee

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 11:28 AM

there are several version of the astra machine party time, with 3, 6, and even eight players at once, but the single stand alone machine is what i am thinking of. To get to play paty time, you get a win and then gamble 5 stages to get to the party time symbol. does anyone know how much it is to purchase the stand alone one player only party time machine??

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 12:59 PM

Are you on about Las Vegas Nights ?? This is the only one i gave seen that you need to gamble to £5 before getting "up the top" as they say( i've even heard 'em saying its went "upstairs") classic wording !

Never seen a stand alone of one of these,can that doesnt mean to say they dont exist !

Will cost a small fortune for one of them,possibly in the region of £600.

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 04:29 PM

Well i have played a machine by the name of Celebrations made by astra and it is a single player partytime in exactly the same way as in you get on the top reels "randomly" after any win.

I do like to play it as you dont get some wierdo hlding up the board coz they think that if you let it spin itself then you get more money - tits

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Posted 30 December 2003 - 08:45 PM

holy moly i do that first spin :(
::First jackpot::-::2p-a-go Winspin::-::£1.50 jackpot from 4p gamble::-::was still in a pram:: Anyone fancy doing WinSpin? Cant find it and would love to see it done.

Only £500 jackpot on Little Devils which I got waiting for a Rainbow Riches (£70) feature to end. Then I got £210 on the feature on Rainbow Riches. My mrs was happy that day!

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Posted 30 December 2003 - 09:49 PM

If its just the first spin i dont mind its when you get a run of about 5 £2`s that takes about half an hour to let it spin itself!

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Posted 30 December 2003 - 10:06 PM

I've not got any pics of any single PartyTime type machines. The best I've got is Lets Party with a 2 machine linkup.

A couple of others in this pic posted to stir some memories too.

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Posted 30 December 2003 - 10:24 PM

You cant almost see your wallet empty just simply by looking at these, nevermind playing them !

Bad, bad eggs.

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 02:54 AM

can u emulate any of those , y dont u people just emulate all the new machines mpu5 , dont worry wat the makers say, were using it for our own use there aint no copyright on the machine is there? not illegal to take pictures just say o im trying out how i make this work if they qustion u


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Posted 31 December 2003 - 04:41 AM

to buy the stand alone machine ur talking in excess of around £2000 to £3000

the 3 player is £18.000

happy buying :D

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 09:15 AM

can u emulate any of those , y dont u people just emulate all the new machines mpu5 , dont worry wat the makers say, were using it for our own use there aint no copyright on the machine is there? not illegal to take pictures just say o im trying out how i make this work if they qustion u


Yeah, an Emu author could code it anonymously and have all the files offshore, or on Bittorrent, Direct Connect or whatever. No comeback and there's no way the manufacturers could do anything about it.

All this "no current tech" stuff is a load of crap. There are loads of MPU5 machines that are well over three years old and more or less gone. Temple of treasure, Adams Family, Golden Dragon... Do we see them emulated? No. And what about Maygay - Homer's Meltdown, Bar Trekkin to name but two.

I'm totally bored with the old machines, and the new releases have slowed down to a trickle. I want to play some newer classics but unless a new coder comes into the scene I guess we'll have to make do with the crumbs that we are fed.

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 10:04 AM

can u emulate any of those , y dont u people just emulate all the new machines mpu5 , dont worry wat the makers say, were using it for our own use there aint no copyright on the machine is there? not illegal to take pictures just say o im trying out how i make this work if they qustion u



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#12 Zoltar

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 12:55 PM

can u emulate any of those ' date=' y dont u people just emulate all the new machines mpu5 , dont worry wat the makers say, were using it for our own use there aint no copyright on the machine is there? not illegal to take pictures just say o im trying out how i make this work if they qustion u[/quote']

Yeah, an Emu author could code it anonymously and have all the files offshore, or on Bittorrent, Direct Connect or whatever. No comeback and there's no way the manufacturers could do anything about it.

All this "no current tech" stuff is a load of crap. There are loads of MPU5 machines that are well over three years old and more or less gone. Temple of treasure, Adams Family, Golden Dragon... Do we see them emulated? No. And what about Maygay - Homer's Meltdown, Bar Trekkin to name but two.

I'm totally bored with the old machines, and the new releases have slowed down to a trickle. I want to play some newer classics but unless a new coder comes into the scene I guess we'll have to make do with the crumbs that we are fed.


The whole point of the scene is to breathe life into what no longer exists. I'm sure modern techs could be emulated within a short amount of time but why would I want to play 'Big Cheese' when It's down the pub? Fruit Machine Emulation is all about bringing back lost classics and nothing more. Yes, Impact technology on the JMP emulator enables some fairly current machines but this is more of a side effect of the emulator rather than a reason for it existing. If the whole scene wanted nothing but to play current machines, I'm sure the authors of emulators would give up altogether on fruit machine emulators. I've always thought the whole point of emulation was to faithfully recreate the real thing as the real thing is no more. I'm sure the forward progress of FME will be the release of emulators that stretch as far back if not futher into time than those we have currently. I for one and I know many many more people also who think similar, think that MPU5 is a waste of effort for all concerned. When it's dead and no longer used by manufacturers, then it will become a viable possibility. Until then, it remains just a fantasy.

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 02:48 PM

You might not want to play these machines, Compost, but a lot of people do. Why would having an emulated version of the superb ToT be a "waste of time", exactly? The amount of new releases is drying up now that most MPU4 machines have been emulated, so now would be the right time to start emulating MPU5 imho. I bet if you put up a poll, a majority of people would want it.

For reasons I already mentioned, the argument "The manufacturers won't like it, I'll get into trouble" doesn't really hold water when discussing MPU5 emulation. The potential anonymity of the Internet is protection enough.

If I could code, I would make and release an MPU5 emulator anonymously tomorrow. Who cares a stuff about the manufacturers or operators anyway - after all, we are talking about one of the greediest, most cynical, corrupt bunch around, I'm sure we agree on that much at least...

Happy new year to you all !

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 03:06 PM

You might not want to play these machines, Compost, but a lot of people do. Why would having an emulated version of the superb ToT be a "waste of time", exactly? The amount of new releases is drying up now that most MPU4 machines have been emulated, so now would be the right time to start emulating MPU5 imho. I bet if you put up a poll, a majority of people would want it.

For reasons I already mentioned, the argument "The manufacturers won't like it, I'll get into trouble" doesn't really hold water when discussing MPU5 emulation. The potential anonymity of the Internet is protection enough.

If I could code, I would make and release an MPU5 emulator anonymously tomorrow. Who cares a stuff about the manufacturers or operators anyway - after all, we are talking about one of the greediest, most cynical, corrupt bunch around, I'm sure we agree on that much at least...

Happy new year to you all !

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by not having an mpu5 emulator we are showing the manufacturers some respect and therefore ensuring that they do not ban us from using there copyrighted roms and machine artwork as empire did. if we did have an mpu5 emulator i am sure they would do that and also stop us from using and supplying their mpu3/4 material, which would all but kill the fme community because the majority of machines on this site are mpu3 or 4.

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 03:24 PM

Why restore a 1999 Ford Fiesta when theres millions around when you could try restoring a 1969 Morris 1000. Something of worth and value for that matter.

Why should we emulate machines that exist in vast numbers a few miles down the road from most of us when theres so many forgotten classics that none of us can play unless emulated. I think thats the main argument here. It's not a case of me not being enthusiastic towads MPU5, but theres lots of older techs that in my opinion, becomes less and less likely to gain resources for. MPU5 can wait. The machines of today ain't going anywhere. We should be pushing for the emulation of machines from the 80's and early 90's. Before they are consigned to memory for ever.

It would be a great crime if we all lost the opportunity to play classics like 'SupaTrack' or 'Popeye', even '777 Heaven' and 'Twilight Zone' on our computers all because MPU5 was considered more urgent.

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#16 ziggy

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 05:04 PM

I for one look forward greatly to the day we can play scorpion 1 ( i think ) to play classics such as the original cops and robbers and its even better clone Cat & Mouse.These machines were the very first machines that " got me hooked " . £2 jp i am sure. Too many people are missing the whole point of fruit machine emulation or have ideas about it that are not in it's best interests.

Too many stray dogs from Arcadia wanting to enhance their " playing " skills on current fruits perharps ??????

Just a theory.

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 06:48 PM

Too many stray dogs from Arcadia wanting to enhance their " playing " skills on current fruits perharps ??????

Just a theory.


You're probably right there mate. I can easily see that theres people on all these forums that don't appreciate the true magic that FME can and does bring.

Too many people use these emulators as a means to try and gain an upper hand playing the real things in the hope of some sort of financial gain. Something I'm against and I'm sure totally against the whole point of fruit machine emulation in the eyes of the authors.

Can you imagine the creator of MAME being pestered to create emulations of current arcade games like those dance mat things? lol
I bet theres virtually no one in the MAME community who thinks that the whole idea of MAME is to emulate current techs. If you were on their forums asking for current stuff, I'm sure you'd get a very swift reply then a warning if not a ban.

This debate has happened many times before across the other forums. Even the quote 'If MPU5 was emulated, are you saying you wouldn't download it?' pops up from time to time. Of course I'd download it if it became available. I just think theres not enough moral reasons to push for emulation of MPU5 in the first place.
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Posted 01 January 2004 - 06:11 PM

Id be quite happy playing mpu5 games on the emulator..... but not untill the technology has been moved to mpu6.Then the machines ( like mpu3/4 ) would be virtually impossible to find in an arcade and would make playing them even more special ( like it is now when you see a classic from your youth getting dx'd.)

There will definetly be more improvements to this scene in coming years.

Who remembers 5p tokens then ?? mk1 ewn ???

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Posted 01 January 2004 - 07:50 PM

I think we need MPU5 now or at least a repositry to hoard the roms... The BIG GAME I mentioned is over 6 years old and that's MPU5. It is basically down to the coders around. If somebody has got the time then we'll see MPU5 if they haven't we won't and not really much point asking for it.

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Posted 01 January 2004 - 08:08 PM

there are loads of mpu5 and other unemulated roms available from romshare etc..but no one wiil dare release an emulator for currently used technologys...the mpu4 rebuilds etc are the only way (at the moment) we may get to play some of the newer machines...once theyve been decrypted............

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