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[adamran]

Hi,

When I get my latest machine if my brothers mates want to go on it for real is it legal without a license if it is set to 10p/£5 (or some other combination)?

Or is this just not true and I'm getting confused with being under 18?

Thanks, Adam

[Dr DX]

Hi Correct me If im worong If it's for personal gain then I think you would need a licence.

[adamran]

Hi Correct me If im worong If it's for personal gain then I think you would need a licence.

The thing is quiz machine don't need a license, and they are for personal gain, this is what I am confused over.

[Dr DX]

But its not a quiz machine your getting is it?

[adamran]

But its not a quiz machine your getting is it?

No but my point being a license is not required solely because a machine is for personal gain.

[Dr DX]

I don't know, but its basicly the same as an arcade I.E personal gain/Profit. Wait untill Nails or Baz logs in they will be able to tell you the right way about it but if its going to be in the likes of a room in your house then I just wouldnt bother getting one, Its going to be hard to prove that your using it for personal gain anyway.

Bri

[impact]

still need a permit £30 for 3 years and you still need a operations license

[Guitar]

How much is an operators liscece and what criteria do you need to meet to get one?

[richy76]

you need a permit anyway & a machine needs to pay licence duty if it is over 5p play £5 jackpot.
The council will not grant a gaming permit to a house.

[impact]

it cost 5k for 3 years then renewed for 3600 evey 3 years unless the prices have changed

over the 10p stake a licence is need there was no change on this from 1 september 07 only.

only that £8 jpt are not allowed full stop

[aaamusements]

The thing is quiz machine don't need a license, and they are for personal gain, this is what I am confused over.

Quiz machines are classed as SWP (Skills With Prizes) and are therefore licence free as they are not classified as a gaming machine in the same way as AWP (Amusements With Prizes) fruit machines are.

[kbos2hm]

hi i want to know if i remember rightly the licences for fruit machines only start when you have a machine that is over six pounds i want to know if im right or rong and if i need a licence for under 6 pounds where and how would i get the licence and who gives them out in tyne and wear kb

[lincs1]

hi i want to know if i remember rightly the licences for fruit machines only start when you have a machine that is over six pounds i want to know if im right or rong and if i need a licence for under 6 pounds where and how would i get the licence and who gives them out in tyne and wear kb

for a £5 jackpot machine u wouldn't require a licence however if your going to site it somewhere then u would require a permit which u would be able to get from your local council. for a fee!!

[stevon]

I don't know if there's a simple answer to this question, but I'll ask anyway...

Does each machine require a permit, or does a premises (ie. a Quicksilver arcade) get one? Does it depend on the amount of machines you have and their classification, or what?

[DnM]

I don't know if there's a simple answer to this question, but I'll ask anyway...

Does each machine require a permit, or does a premises (ie. a Quicksilver arcade) get one? Does it depend on the amount of machines you have and their classification, or what?

I'm not 100% sure of the figures but here goes:

My local arcade has a permit, they can squeeze in as many £5 JP machines as they like for no extra per machine.

If they have machines £15-£500 JP then they have to pay a yearly licence for each machine.

I assume this is what you've heard and come to the conclusion that you can have one at home free?

So in order to have a machine for free in your home you'll need to get your house registered as a gambling premises (which the council would never grant) and get all the appropriate licenses, which is completely pointless for 1 £5 machine.

My suggestion is that you live dangerously, and stop worrying! I had a machine in my house for a couple of years and always made a few quid from my school mates, i never even considered the legalities of it at the time.

[lincs1]

using a machine for home use and making finanical gain from friends ect is HIGHLY ILLEGAL if you didn't have a permit and friends was found out to be playing and the gaming board inspectors found out then you would be in deep shit, they would jump on you like a ton of bricks. i know coz this happend to a lad i know in malton he had 6 machines in a room and all his m8's kept going round and playing them, until a inspector arrived with a warrant to gain entry. he was caught red handed not only did he get a £2000 fine by the court but his machines where all confiscated.



hope this helps


lincs1

[serviceenginner]

using a machine for home use and making finanical gain from friends ect is HIGHLY ILLEGAL if you didn't have a permit and friends was found out to be playing and the gaming board inspectors found out then you would be in deep shit, they would jump on you like a ton of bricks. i know coz this happend to a lad i know in malton he had 6 machines in a room and all his m8's kept going round and playing them, until a inspector arrived with a warrant to gain entry. he was caught red handed not only did he get a £2000 fine by the court but his machines where all confiscated.



hope this helps


lincs1

with 8 machines im not suprised he got busted as that would be classed as anm arcade
with 1 you should be ok if in doubt ring the gaming board up but if you do ring them dont give your real name or address

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[RB]

with 8 machines im not suprised he got busted as that would be classed as anm arcade
with 1 you should be ok if in doubt ring the gaming board up but if you do ring them dont give your real name or address

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And use a pay Phone....

[aaamusements]

with 8 machines im not suprised he got busted as that would be classed as anm arcade
with 1 you should be ok if in doubt ring the gaming board up but if you do ring them dont give your real name or address

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Even if you only have 1 machine, you are breaking the law if you allow anyone else AT ALL to play it.

Also Stake/Jackpot is irrelevant in this situation if it is an AWP.

Edited by aaamusements, 07 July 2008 - 11:16 PM.
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[stu55554]

aye i have 15jp machines n a 35jp monopoly but i dont push my m8s to play them at all when we have a party or a gathering which is usually once a month m8s play the machines at there own will and i made a big loss last time adam got 105 quid streak from my monopoly as i had played it until it was gaging to give road to ritches