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[todd1970]

Seconded,total waste of space and even worse on £1 stake

Thirded...all S16 machines need stabbed..then burned in a big fire.

Globals do suck but emulated I enjoy them, nice sound packages. Screwing Around for eg.

Agreed Pook..the double entendres (spelling) of 'screwing around' make me laff like fook...then again im right immature.

[RB]

I think Mdm had probably the best sound package on "The Mob" and that was fairly good in the wild, or maybe Maygays "Gladiators" on full volume in the Saloon bar, lots of feature play for little bucks. Or maybe...NAH that was Global....

[Pook]

I remember you released red alert pook, your comment was priceless 'cannot polish a turd' I actually always did well on the machine.

The AWP was alright, the club version I did was horrific, mind you most modernish clubbers are. Shame as I still consider that one of my better works.

[spa]

Speaking of Bangin Away, I have a ram file somewhere where it's so far behind it paid out £270 within £15!

I will see if I still have it

[RUKI2909]

10jp trivia pursuit there must of been some thing on this never had a jp some one was killing it when i was younger lol

[ritdav]

Personally i like the sounds of banging away,must of put hundreds through the emu version never managed a jp but if you take small wins you can get ahead,wouldn't play it in real life though.

[dodge8]

TBH ANYTHING Empire

i didnt think empire's crossfire was that bad.

my worst though has got to be (loads a money) nothing has ever come close to how much iv losed on that

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[stevedude2]

The Italian Job 2 - Maygay

f*****g awful game. Shite gameplay, horrible losing-game counts, one-move boards - absolutely f*****g disgusting machine. By far my least favourite, and I've played a lot of games over the years.

Never mind the Crossfire trick or the cyclic streak that comes round every now and again - this was pure filth of the highest order. I'd love to see one of these smashed up with a hammer and then burned.


Example of fantastic gameplay -

£1 in - f*** all
£2 in - Stoppa Nudge - you hit 1 nudge for f*** all
£3 in - f*** all
£4 in - Super Hold - f*** all there, hold two features, other reel comes back in the same place - f*** all
£5 in - You either get a win on a 2 or 11, hi-lo gamble loses - f*** all, or you get the feature, press start, the number reel goes round ten times, for a 4 or 11, mystery, game over - f*** all.

Repeat until you lose the will to live...


I'll say it again -


f*****g DISGUSTING FILTH MACHINE!

[Heihachi_73]

In Australia (Vic), I put down the MK6 Indian Dreaming that we ended up with (nothing to do with the emulated one). It hardly ever pays anything, even when just playing 1 reel by itself! It has an 87.05% return to player, which is 0.05% above the lowest legal amount. I actually put $1 in once and just pressed the 1 credit/1 reel bet right down to zero and only managed to line up a 9 and a Tepee (wild) in the 105 spins it got. Yep, it paid 5 credits after all that, and didn't even match up three of a kind or even a proper two of a kind since it was a wild symbol!

The MK5 Indian Dreaming was a pretty good game, you could actually win on it now and then. I think it had 88 or 89% return, but they were too old to display that stuff to the general user.

Grizzly is crap, it never gives you anything in the free games with the substitute unless you end up with something crap like a x3 multiplier (it goes up to x50). On this game, when you start the feature, you're a bear looking for lunch. You have to catch fish to give you a free game multiplier, which is x2 by default. Usually if it goes past x10, you know you won't get anything on the free games! It is only multiplied if the wild symbol (the bear) is substituting. The game will naturally give you five Jacks or something else like four picture symbols (which might pay 200 or something) without a wild if you're lucky to match anything at all in the 12 or 15(?) games it gives you.

100 Lions has the lowest legal RTP in Victoria, of 87.01%! Naturally, it rarely pays anything, but I have actually seen the full screen of lions on a 2c one for A$1000 or $2000 (I've forgotten, the person was playing 100 credits or $2 a spin at Crown Casino).

I am also yet to win anything on Where's the Gold, but everyone else does. Even worse is that it is a 5c machine in every venue, whereas outside Vic (excluding Crown where it is 2c) it is a 1c game. The 5c game costs $1.25 to play all lines on a 1 credit bet.

Those Red Hot Progressives are also garbage, they never pay anything except for the jackpot itself at its $100 limit (after you've probably lost $90 or something to move the progressive $3 forward for the said jackpot to go off!). They're not even worth looking at unless one of the four jackpots is sitting in the mid 90s, which is almost never since no-one else who have been bitten will play it! The jackpots range between $50 and $100, but are usually all around 55-85. There are no emptier techniques for Australian machines, since they rely on random values. The above jackpot might decide to go off at $63 instead as it did once!

Still, they don't sound anywhere as nasty as the above one which looks like it cheats! Weren't those 'fixed' double up games banned from use after being tested by the government? The ones where you go to double up, save state, select a low (a 3) and it turns over a 9, load state, select high (an 8) and it gives you a 5 (continue that in any order of high/low until you get bored of constantly losing). That also doesn't count the 'normal' game in its original machine doing the exact same thing without the option to save/load!

[stevedude2]

Believe me Heihachi, you have it good over in Australia compared to what UK players have had to put up with over the years

87% is your minimum legal percentage payout? That's actually quite generous because over here they can be set to as low as 70%. And when you think that even then some of that money is being creamed off and stored away to be paid out as a 'dump' later, 99 times out of 100 the average player will experience as little as a 65% or even a 60% game unless they hit that big payout.

The government didn't exactly outlaw rigged gambles in this country; they merely insisted that any such games have a sticker on them saying 'This machine may at times offer the player a choice where the player has no chance of success'.

I know what you mean about free games features. I sometimes play a game by IGT called Pharaoh's Fortune when I go to the casino. On the feature you have to uncover tiles to increase the number of free games you have. Some of the tiles are multipliers instead. When you pick a 'Start Feature' tile, the free spins commence. But it's funny how a lot of the time you seem to get the same amount of money regardless of how many spins you have. I had 5 spins at x1 and got £70, then a bit later had 12 spins with x5 and only got £55, with loads of useless spins that won me £1.20 or something, over and over! So in the end you can see that the value the feature will pay has already been decided, and that turning the tiles over means nothing! Bit of a let-down really!

[Heihachi_73]

We have a couple of games with a similar double up.

You have to pick one card out of four to try and beat the computer's card, so of course the computer decides to draw a King or an Ace for you to beat!

The best ones by far are the simple red/black ones. No skill needed, just luck as they're random numbers!

The other day, someone walked out of a venue with $4600. They played a game called Sweet Hearts II on $9 per spin and managed to get all 5 hearts on it which pays just over $2000 on that bet. They must have been professionals or just rich and dumb, as he went to gamble and hit black after about a minute of everyone talking around him (in Vietnamese or some other Asian language). The machine actually gave him a black card and double his win to about $4400 and he took it, played off the excess dollars and cashed out, noticeably annoying the attendant with the huge payout!

Speaking of useless spins, on the same night night, I played a 2c Queen of the Nile (Cash Express) on 1 credit/1 line and got the free games (3 pyramids) up. It gave out the free games twice during the feature, jumped up to 33 free spins remaining on the display. After all of those spins finished, I ended up with a whole 6 credits won, with only two 9's (yet again) appearing, not even any scattered pyramids came up (excluding the two sets of free games which each pay 15 x bet)! At 2 spins left I had four Queens line up with the Cleopatra substitute on the 4th reel, without the Q at the front being there to pay anything!

[fruitman69]

TBH ANYTHING Empire

No way cardie Crossfire was a quality machine !

IMO still there best to date!

[fruitman69]

I know what you mean about free games features. I sometimes play a game by IGT called Pharaoh's Fortune when I go to the casino. On the feature you have to uncover tiles to increase the number of free games you have. Some of the tiles are multipliers instead. When you pick a 'Start Feature' tile, the free spins commence. But it's funny how a lot of the time you seem to get the same amount of money regardless of how many spins you have. I had 5 spins at x1 and got £70, then a bit later had 12 spins with x5 and only got £55, with loads of useless spins that won me £1.20 or something, over and over! So in the end you can see that the value the feature will pay has already been decided, and that turning the tiles over means nothing! Bit of a let-down really!

Oh Steve i love that game too but there is many different versions of it and you never know which one your playing lol

As for the feature funny you should say its rigged as one of my sims is based on this and IS totally random but however does sometimes give you less money off more spins so maybe just maybe is not tottally controlled ?

And with my SIM surprising how many times you can hit the start feature on first pick Grrrrrrrrr !

[ForYouToEnvy]

The government didn't exactly outlaw rigged gambles in this country; they merely insisted that any such games have a sticker on them saying 'This machine may at times offer the player a choice where the player has no chance of success'.

WTF?
Im guessing you live in a different uk to me as iv not heard of or seen any of these stickers:bigeyes05:

[DaemonX]

TBH ANYTHING Empire

I also disagree kinda, but then, I loved the Gambler lol. I did a relase of this and most won over £50 from it with little money spent, at the end of the day, they all pay when their happy.

Worst machines I've played, gotta be Hokey Cokey, rarely get a feature down our way and it goes for £5 top.

[spa]

No way cardie Crossfire was a quality machine !

IMO still there best to date!

Good but not best

[todd1970]

Disagree strongly..there are a good few Empire machines out there.

Money Spinner
The Gambler
Fright Night
Money Monster
Hot Cash

All the rest ive seen are pretty kak though.

[fruitmachineemu]

tuppeny nudge best machine worse fat cat!