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#1 Shadi

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Posted 15 January 2004 - 01:17 PM

Also known as "Tells" and probably a whole host of things.

Question is, has anyone got any decent info. I usually play club mnachines, but would be grateful for any info.

My favourite is PCB club. Quite an easy tell when you know what to look for, and good afters to be had.

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#2 Pgamblin

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Posted 15 January 2004 - 02:10 PM

I stopped playing club machines a little while back but one i did know was Lucky Strike Club. (The 4 reeler set in a western style layout)

If playing on 10p stake you would get a stopper of £30 which would usually indicate the jp would roll in if you took the board and lost, Playing on 20p you would get selector of £8 or boost to £40. exchange and lose and sometimes (only sometimes) it would give you bonus add and boost one of the columns to the jp...
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Posted 15 January 2004 - 10:14 PM

I've find that £25 AWPs tend to readily offer the win below the jackpot - 10 or 15, hoping that you'll be tempted to take it.

After refusing those wins a few times (that's if you're forcing) it'll suddenly become really stingy for about a few quid's worth of credits, then it'll give you a jackpot.

Forced 3 Jackpots out of High Flyer (spit) on Tuesday (35 in 75 out).
It was re-filled the next morning, and managed to get another JP out of a fiver in the evening. 60 quid up, good time to call it quits!

#4 Shadi

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 11:30 AM

Thanks for that guys, but I was thinking of something a little bit more solid off quite a bit less cash. You can usually tell on PCB at the exchange point how close it is - this means for a fiver or so, you should have a good idea.

Ideally I was looking for similar type of hints rather than "force it". Not bad advice for Barcrest if you're in for a ride, but it'd bore me to death on a Vivid, especially with the "one jackpots your lot" game play.

Cheers ....... Adi.

#5 Zoltar

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 12:35 PM

Some Maygay machines like Donkey Kong give an indication of a JP. If/when you enter the feature by filling the name, check out the cash level on the cash trial. If it starts on any amount over a pound, you'll be able to complete the trail to the finish.

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#6 Shadi

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 01:01 PM

Its certainly starting to get better. Now, are we talking £25 AWP's or the little ones. I presume the big ones, as I've yet to meet anyone who can consistantly turn a profit on th £5ers.

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#7 ziggy

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 03:43 PM

Try www.superarcadia.co.uk for more info.Someone MIGHT be able to help if you specify a machine.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 04:37 PM

Thanks for that Ziggy, but I think I'll pass.

Its looking like good info just don't come for free !

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 06:59 PM

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 11:21 PM

the only tell tale signs i used to take advantage was on roller coaster..as everyone who plays this machine knows when it gives roll up, roll up...u know ur gonna reach the top/jp or the 2nd and 3rd features...

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 11:36 PM

1s and 12s were a better indicator to play on or not dont you think ??

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 11:42 PM

'Thanks for that Ziggy, but I think I'll pass.

Its looking like good info just don't come for free !'

Note the 2nd line. Yes, I'm back, albeit without my logo :) I hope I am not the only person that thinks this person is rather ungrateful. Considering he started a post on 'Pre Jackpot Behaviour' - what he should have said was 'I lose too much money/have nothing to contribute to the scene/thanks but no thanks'....

The only way to tell Pre Jackpot Behaviour [I had several names for this, i.e PJT [Pre Jackpot Tension]]..is to work on a machine/machine basis. By that I mean that a :
Red Gaming will go from a £3 block to dropping in wins of £6 [for some reason they often drop Double Bars in [but I love Red Gaming, they ROCK!]}
BellFruit - in their modern Scorp 4 type machines tend to play well, die for 10/20 and then drop a Red, often followed by another Red for £50, sometimes with afterplay [good examples would be Diamond Mine, and clones]
Mazooma will VERY RARELY give JP IMHO, normally just changing their mind and dropping £60 as and when they feel like it,
JPM will offer more 'Okie Dokeys' [i.e Let Em Spins] on higher values, will let you gamble to higher levels before exchanges and then drop Red boards e.t.c
Barcrest - New machines are fecking awful...STAY WELL AWAY..they are quite obviously BellFruit clones [i.e High Flyer - I have NEVER known a Barcrest to offer 16 nudges = £1.60 before and then spin a VERY long 12 and kill me!!]
Vivid you just have to keep pushing them on the hi-lo, looking for red features e.t.c and using that Vivid 'method' which I have never used as without keys you do not know if the machine is chipped against it. PLUS the machine has to be full so I have NO idea as to why people refer to it as a 'cheat'...sorry people

FRUIT MACHINE CHEATS DO NOT EXIST!!

Well, thats a concise guide, Obviously bound to be inaccurate, e.t.c, use at your own risk. As stated in the beginning, it depends machine>machine and the only way to know what is Pre Jackpot Behaviour is to play to a Jackpot on several occasions and note weird events [or get people to tell you them!]

That doesn't mean I forgive you, but I'm in a good mood...read my new thread to see why :D

Best Regards to all you FME'ers :D

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#13 ziggy

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 11:49 PM

Oww, Sounds like Benito's gone all anti-barcrest ! loosing the logo confirms this i think !

Decent enough " young persons guide to becoming a slot fiend " lol

#14 Bencrest

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 12:03 AM

Hmm...it is hard to explain -

Classic Barcrest [Road Hog, Andy Capp] I CANT get enough of,

Modern Barcrest [Spiker, Monty Python] I still think should be sited, GREAT PLAYABILITY [on £15 chip anyway :D]

NEW Barcrest?? How many clones of High Flyer do we need with NO Jackpot and normally a £2/1.60 block? Anyone that says they play well obviously doesn't play them when they are not full enough to burst :D

There you have it, I would have a Red X Logo and a name change but I think it is Protocol that beat me to it :D

Lord knows what I will come up with next :D
Definately not BGT-Benito anyway :D:D

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#15 martinmeu

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 12:04 AM

a good way of knowing about pre jackpot watch a pensioner put £100.00 in hitech with no joy

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 06:31 AM

just to add my two penneth worth......if i find a machine lets you onto the feature board more than 3 times in 10 spins i take this as a good indicator!!!

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#17 danzaiver

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 11:12 AM

martinmeu you are sick. but its true. I went to my local
gambler and saw an old granny playing 3 machines at once you know the BAR X machines. after sh finished i played them and jacked all 3 pf them 3 times. Unfortunaltley they were the crappy 10 ones the gave tokens over 6 quid :(

#18 Shadi

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 12:01 PM

Thanks for the flame Benito - although not really deserved.

My initial post was aimed at Club machines, which you no doubt know can be expensive if you don't know what to look for. With frequent refills happening at most sites, relying on backing alone is dodgy in the extreme.

As for nothing to contribute - well I've been a member for only 3 days, and I'm actively trying to contribute on other debates. Its also difficult when I don't know what level of contribution would be welcome / appreciated here either.

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#19 Bencrest

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 12:54 PM

Sorry about that Shadi, no offense really intended, too much to drink lol :)

I've always been against allowing people to ask such questions [ cheats/emptiers/strategies] purely on the basis that the site now has over 11000 members....and about 99% contribute nothing, 0.5 percent actively support and the others subscribe, demand emptiers then throw a MAJOR wobbly when they don't get what they want.

Surely that number of members is doing no good at all for Duplu, who will probably have to remortgage his house to cover bandwidth costs!!

Looking back, yours was a valid question, and so once again - sorry Shadi. I didn't mean to offend you and I can see now you are a reasonable bloke!

Best Regards,

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#20 ziggy

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 02:31 PM

Yeah it was a bit of a funny question to ask but hey ! Who cares really !.

Nice to actually see some of these 11,000 members contribute to the forums,ect.And why not too ?!! There are plenty of decent people on here.Not quite on the same debating levels as ff or pr but still good enough for me !

C'mon the well !!




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