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#1 boycie

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 08:35 PM

I currently have an original Only Fools and Horses Fruit Machine which had given me some 10 years plus of trouble free operation. untill now. Each time I turn the machine on it takes about 2-4 minutes before the sound starts to work properly. When it does kick in, it works fine for as long as you play it. Which seems to rule out a speaker problem ? Can you please give me some advise or what to look for to rectify this problem. There are no other problems with it that I am aware off and any advise you can supply would be greatly appreciated, should you require any further info please do not hesitate to contact me. Please reply at your earliest convenience. For info this machine has the spinning dice at the top has a £6.00 jackpot and is 20p a play. I would also like to know if it is possible to get hold of the operating manual for this machine ?

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 08:36 PM

Has the backup battery been changed at any point in those 10 years? Because if not if might very well be leaking.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:15 PM

I currently have an original Only Fools and Horses Fruit Machine which had given me some 10 years plus of trouble free operation. untill now. Each time I turn the machine on it takes about 2-4 minutes before the sound starts to work properly. When it does kick in, it works fine for as long as you play it. Which seems to rule out a speaker problem ? Can you please give me some advise or what to look for to rectify this problem. There are no other problems with it that I am aware off and any advise you can supply would be greatly appreciated, should you require any further info please do not hesitate to contact me. Please reply at your earliest convenience. For info this machine has the spinning dice at the top has a £6.00 jackpot and is 20p a play. I would also like to know if it is possible to get hold of the operating manual for this machine ?

its a scorpian 2 tech

so to be honest its ment to be a common problem as ive noticed why playing older bell fruit machines that use this technology so in a way its just old and bound to happen

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:20 PM

Can the back up battery be replaced and if so how and where do i get one

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:23 PM

Can the back up battery be replaced and if so how and where do i get one

i have seen some floating about on ebay

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:24 PM

Can the back up battery be replaced and if so how and where do i get one


It can be, but it has probably already leaked and damaged the board - it does tend to lead to this fault.
Can you take out the board and get a good pic of it?

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:28 PM

Can you tell me where this battery is located within the machine or is it concealed ? if nothing can be done will i eventually lose the sound all together ? or is it mains fed also

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:32 PM

Can you tell me where this battery is located within the machine or is it concealed ? if nothing can be done will i eventually lose the sound all together ? or is it mains fed also


The battery does not power the sound, it just backs up the RAM memory when the power is off.
It affects the sound by eating away at the components and circuit board when it leaks.
It is located roughly in the centre of the big main circuit board, it will probably be blue but could possibly be green, and will most likely say "VARTA" on it.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:41 PM

I have this problem with my S2 machine. A few people have told me it needs the Caps replacing on the PSU, either that or a complete replacement PSU. Also reckon I've got battery damage too as the sounds are all jumbled up. Thing is though the battery looks OK!!

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 09:54 PM

I have just looked at the battery you are right it does have varta on it and it has been leaking at some point but appears to be dry where it is corroded can not see any damage to the board. will the situation get worse ie sound wise

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:04 PM

sounds play fine after 2-4 minutes but like i said the battery is damaged but is dry where corroded. hope i dont lose the sound altogether. what are your thoughts ?

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:26 PM

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:32 PM

sounds play fine after 2-4 minutes but like i said the battery is damaged but is dry where corroded. hope i dont lose the sound altogether. what are your thoughts ?

Well my sound was fine at first, then developed the same problem as yours, and now as I said earlier the sound are all jumbled up. It plays the wrong sample at the wrong time. Some are OK still though.

Unfortunately, I reckon things will only get worse as time goes by.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:40 PM

ok thanks for the info and help

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:49 PM

i have seen some floating about on ebay



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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:06 PM

If it was a blue battery then it will have gassed out most likely - and the gas is corrosive.
So even if it does not look as though the battery has leaked onto the board, it could still have done damage.

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 05:11 PM

Appreciate the advice you have all supplied. Like I say the battery has leaked in the past but know appears dry. Can not see any damage to the board are replacement boards available ? and roughly how much would it cost

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 08:02 PM

I was recently told the reason I may have lost the sound on my Only Fools And Horses mc was the battery had leaked on the board and damaged some components. well the battery has leaked at some point, but now appears dry, and I can not see any damage to the board. do you have any others idea's what the poblem may be. the board is a scorpian 2

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 08:05 PM

I was recently told the reason I may have lost the sound on my Only Fools And Horses mc was the battery had leaked on the board and damaged some components. well the battery has leaked at some point, but now appears dry, and I can not see any damage to the board. do you have any others idea's what the poblem may be. the board is a scorpian 2



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Posted 16 November 2008 - 09:10 PM

I was recently told the reason I may have lost the sound on my Only Fools And Horses mc was the battery had leaked on the board and damaged some components. well the battery has leaked at some point, but now appears dry, and I can not see any damage to the board. do you have any others idea's what the poblem may be. the board is a scorpian 2

1. check the wiring from the board to the speaker.
2. probably just the avarge scorp 2 board its not very good on sound
3. the battery could of leaked damaged the board and dried so even though its dried its probably still left perminent damage.
4. your speakers knacker maybe due to the cone spring being burnt or damaged or the magnets become de magnitized

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