impersonator said
If, as you say that this site has helped people who have been addicts for many years, then the opposit can also be stated, what may help some can in itself lead to creating future addicts, that is the circle of life... when one stops there are two more to replace them, sadly life is like that whether you like it or not...
Fine that is your opinion but I have been part of FME since it's inception and generally FME is AGAINST gambling.
impersonator said
As for Duplu I can understand exactly why he quit, this site was purely a hobby in order to keep the memories of 'our' youth alive, with the use of emulation of old fruit machines etc, some of which have now been lost forever... Some years ago Duplu set up his own hosting service, which requires alot of money in order to run and keep running, not only is Fruit-Emu on this server, so is DX'cellent and a few others, so in order for Duplu keep all in check he needs money and if he can get it from various sources such as UJ then so be it, who am I, you or anyone else to judge or tell him Duplu how to recover the costs, we don't and that it's.
Again that is your opinion and that is fine, also I do not need a history lesson thank you. I've witnessed it all first hand. Again the money from the banner is okay (not in my opinion but get his reasons) however the 'plugging' of his site in threads I believe crosses the line.
impersonator said
Yes Duplu, did state that he knew very little about UJ..., but he also stated that he knew enough to make him happy to allow UJ's banner, so therefore it suggest to me that he indeed did do some investigating.
Allow the banner yes.... the plugging of the site?
impersonator said
If you say that he is Spamming this thread (and boy it was one hell of a good spam Peter, really long this time...) then that is your opinion Geddy.... I will state this, I have read the very last post by Peter in its entiratey, and not once have I felt being sucked into a life of gambling in any way again, Peter's post confirmed to me that they are serious about what they have set out to do, they are clearly aware that gambling is addiction, and so am I, they have a wish to provide a service which current online gamblers can use that is better than the 'Free or Real play' crap that passes off to be fruit machines...
I am not saying you have felt sucked in, however I am not just concerned about you, I am concerned about the membership as a whole. How many signed up to be beta testers? How many might have thought 'Ooo that is good I can't wait to try it for real money.' Can you remember the old Superman anti-smoking adverts? 'One puff and I have them.' Well it all sort of reminds me of that.
His recent post IMO was just blagging. A history lesson of his company which I am sorry is totally irrelevant and does not answer the basic points this discussion is about. End of story he is a business man out to make a profit and I doubt very much if he minds he takes money from addicts or helps create new ones, after all everyone's money is the same colour.
impersonator said
Outback Gaming... in not a lie as you put it.... Geddy, if you have any understanding about business, setting up off or running off, then you will understand the point that Peter made in an earlier thread, Outback Gaming provides them with supplies and in which case they are 'FREE' to use that companies logo, as is any other business once you have their permission.
I do not need to know anything about business to spot a lie. He said in the post I quoted they were not involved and he did not want to get them involved and then the machines he uses are from Outback gaming. So he is lying end of story because by using Outback gaming's machines or as a supplier as you and him put it is INVOLVING THEM!!!
impersonator said
In regards to making money from their venture, they are entitled to as is anyone else who wishes to do the same....
Indeed they are allowed to make money from their venture but I was hoping it was not at the expense of some of the ex-addicts or impressionable kids that frequent this board.
