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[ForYouToEnvy]

Well i have been banned on this site . for something i do not know why. just wondering if any 1 else has been declined for accsess or been banned full stop
what a load of $&%# if u ask me

pies

Did you post anything there?

:devil:

[voodoomau5]

3 reasons -

FW read your replies on here and thought "f*ck that"

Your first post you were on about putting up empire layouts

You publicy announced that you "hope his site fails"

Hmmmmm............let me think

[piesthecat]

that was before all that lol

[Toddyuk]

3 reasons -

fw read your replies on here and thought "f*ck that"

your first post you were on about putting up empire layouts

you publicy announced that you "hope his site fails"

hmmmmm............let me think

lmao ,

[piesthecat]

oh well

[voodoomau5]

oh well

Alfie you can't just give up like that

STAND YOUR GROUND AND FIGHT pmsl

[ady]

what is the point in keep posting threads like this im sure you like everybody taking the piss out of you.:empty:

My thoughts exactly Tom.

[MAGIK]

if these posts by fruitworkz are fantasy can you please post to state as such so our faith in Fruit-Emu.com is restored. There are a number of members very worried that their details are compromised. This in line with the dispute over 'copyright' of a layout that no one but barcrest group can claim is their intellectual property.

If people start 'copyrighting' layouts, that is, not permitted to view or download without the permission of the author, then where is our scene headed?

[fuzion]

Underground?

[Geddy]

Only partially true, as I've said. FW asked who some members were, in terms of their activities on FE.

As usual something in FME land blown out of all proportion and suddenly it's a crisis and I've sold all your personal details to the devil.

For one, I don't have any of your personal details other than an e-mail address. An IP address alone does not constitute personal information under the Data Protection Act.

Only partially true? So you are partially guilty then?

FW has no right to ask for any information AT ALL and you have no right in supplying him with ANY information AT ALL.

Like I have already said I know information including IP and Email addresses have been exchanged between yourself and FW to effect a banning.

I hope I do not have to post that evidence because I think you do a great job here but you should know getting involved with FW was a poor decision. That is a few bad decisions so far this year and a few to do with FW....... funny that.

I don't understand why people don't just stick to the forums they enjoy. If FW doesn't want someone on his forum then that is his decision and his alone. Yes, it might not be the norm for FME sites but it is his forum.

However that site is 'owned' by yourself and really do you want to be associated with such actions?

Does FW pay for the hosting or is it a freebie? Since I have contributed to this site I would hate to think that by default I am in effect helping Andy with his hosting costs.

[Geddy]

Well i have been banned on this site . for something i do not know why. just wondering if any 1 else has been declined for accsess or been banned full stop what a load of $&%# if u ask me

You should be banned from this one as well.

[Geddy]

The Abyss - Reserved for threads which have veered to far off-topic and have been un-retrievably lost!

How does this thread meet that criteria? In fact it appears to be more on topic that any other thread bar releases on this site?

Why was this moved? It is on topic or is it more 'special treatment?'

[Geddy]

If you wish to use IP addresses to identify or build a profile on each of your visitors as an individual, even if they are never identified by name, you should assume that the Data Protection Act applies. The safest course is to assume that the Act does apply in these circumstances. A court will be influenced by the Information Commissioner's guidance on this point. Therefore you should make visitors aware of your intentions to use IP addresses and, where possible, gain consent before processing an IP address for these purposes, for example, via a data protection notice.

I think it is fair this sums up 'our case.' IP addresses have been cross referenced along with emails to build a profile. In other words to compare to see if the 'profiles' (usernames) are consistent across two separate web sites. Obviously consent had not been gained nor was a data protection notice issued.

In 2001, the then Information Commissioner, Elizabeth France, acknowledged the difficulty of using IP addresses to build up personalised profiles. "It is hard to see how the collection of dynamic IP addresses without other identifying information would bring a website operator within the scope of the Data Protection Act 1998," she wrote.

She continued: "Static IP addresses are different. As with cookies they can be linked to a particular computer which may actually or by assumption be linked to an individual user. If static IP addresses were to form the basis for profiles that are used to deliver targeted marketing messages to particular individuals they, and the profiles, would be personal data subject to the Data Protection Act 1998."

So it looks like static IPs alone are covered by the DPA. However in the case of Fruit-Emu/Fruitworkz we are told that IPs AND emails have been crossed checked to for all intents and purposes perform profiling of usernames and forum accounts. This definitely by description covered by the DPA and thus what has happened should be considered a breech.

[duplu]

if these posts by fruitworkz are fantasy can you please post to state as such so our faith in Fruit-Emu.com is restored.

I have posted this a number of times now and it's getting boring to be honest.

[duplu]

I think it is fair this sums up 'our case.' IP addresses have been cross referenced along with emails to build a profile. In other words to compare to see if the 'profiles' (usernames) are consistent across two separate web sites. Obviously consent had not been gained nor was a data protection notice issued.



So it looks like static IPs alone are covered by the DPA. However in the case of Fruit-Emu/Fruitworkz we are told that IPs AND emails have been crossed checked to for all intents and purposes perform profiling of usernames and forum accounts. This definitely by description covered by the DPA and thus what has happened should be considered a breech.

I'll repeat it again for the hard of hearing: 'No IP addresses or e-mail addresses have been passed from Fruit-Emu.com to Fruitworkz.net. If you are paranoid and would like your account here deleted send an e-mail to webmaster@fruit-emu.com and it will be done.

[duplu]

The Abyss - Reserved for threads which have veered to far off-topic and have been un-retrievably lost!

How does this thread meet that criteria? In fact it appears to be more on topic that any other thread bar releases on this site?

Why was this moved? It is on topic or is it more 'special treatment?'

Considering this thread was started to promote a new forum I would say it's way off the original topic.

[Geddy]

More self incriminating posting from the master of disaster.....

OK.

Over the past few days we have had a couple of accounts that clone the user names of long standing members both here and on other forums.

Oddly enough it seems that the individuals who tried to do that are now protesting and attempting to argue about it in email (sheesh I wonder who that could be).

Come on then who is it? Or are these more wild accusations?

are who they claim to be[/B'] which is slowing things down somewhat.

'We' so you are admitting Duplu is passing you personal information to check against your database?

If you are a member of here and open an account I'll simply pm you to verify it is you before I activate it. I am trying my hardest to protect people completely and as the law states. The last thing I want is someone going off the rails on a forum I own (and Duplu hosts) and starting trouble for completely innocent people.

Protect? Law? Something you obviously know nothing about.

Have you thought about new members? Can they not have accounts or are they being discriminated against as well?

When 'Trouty' tried to sign up to your site how did you know it was the real Trouty or a fake one? Which IP did you compare the applier's IP too to find out if it was the real Trouty or not?

too. Another reason why we now must waste more time ensuring our members are safe and their details are kept safe.

Ooooo you drama Queen. You after more sympathy? There is that use of the word 'we' again..... that my friend is going to be the nail in your coffin.
Horse bolted it is clearly apparent that members details ARE NOT SAFE here or at Fruitworkz.

This is not being performed to play "Where's Wally". As I am sure you can understand being an owner of a forum depicts certain responsibilities.

They should do yeah but it looks like those responsibilities have been some what let go by the way side.

[Geddy]

I'll repeat it again for the hard of hearing: 'No IP addresses or e-mail addresses have been passed from Fruit-Emu.com to Fruitworkz.net. If you are paranoid and would like your account here deleted send an e-mail to webmaster@fruit-emu.com and it will be done.

That is total bullshit. I have listed an example above. Also Andy T has said twice now this practice has took place.

How can Andy compare an IP or email address if he has nothing to compare it to?

Account closed no but I would appreciate my donation returned as it is clear it could be going towards the hosting of FW which I am being discriminated by.