You know yourself what he has done over the years I am not allowing him to treat me like he has.
I tried to do this with you 'in person' so to speak but sadly the horse had already bolted and you had already taken flight to slag me off at another forum. One i can and will not... sigh.
OK let me address your post one thing at a time. I won't multiquote because TBH I am done with trying to explain things to people. This is the last time I will attempt to do so with you so read this through very carefully. What you choose to do then is your concern tbh.
This so called 'pure fantasy' that I was 'spouting' about other members might have seemed that way to you. However, it was simply "If you are going to attempt to run a successful forum you need to take into account that certain members will do their best to ruin it"
I pointed these members out to you (thanks for taking private conversation into the public forums, I really appreciate that !) as the members who I knew would take issue with me posting on
your forum.I attempted to help Guitar with his emulator (see attempted, he was well within his rights to refuse what I was doing. Even if my work was shit hey, at least I was trying) at which point a
certain member unsuprisingly took great issue with this and started spamming and trolling the thread in a blatant attempt to destroy it.
Contrary to what you seem to think I was not going to accept that.
you had your chance to so something about it but refused. I decided I did not want to post on your forum any more.
Can you understand that yes? Personally I find that pretty reasonable, in the way that I am not going to take blatant abuse and sit back whilst nothing is done about it.
You may be happy with that. But I am not. See Fruitforums, see whatever forum.As far as I am concerned FME has no sides. FME has no argument and it is what it is.
Fruit machines being emulated. And to that ends I do not discriminate about who does it, or how they do it. They're perfectly entitled to do whatever they want with their forums (note their forums, as in their intellectual property) as is anyone else.
I decided that your forum was not for me, as I wasn't going to waste my valuable time attempting to help someone with an emulator to better FME and take abuse for it.
Does that sound fair too yes?
At which point I decided maybe it was finally time to go ahead and do my own thing.
Please, don't even dare to play the "you haven't tried" card.
I have tried to do
FME on every single damned forum on the internet that exists for it bar one. And I don't even need to name it or explain why. That is blatantly obvious.
And on every single one of those forums the admins and moderators there saw it more important to 'let people have their say' and thus allowed my on topic FME posts to be utterly dragged through the mud and destroyed forthwith.
And thus I tried every single forum and at every single forum it was very clear to me that FME wasn't
truly and transparently the main agenda.
And that's fine. We all need to do what we need to do in order to live a fulfilled life.
And thus I opened my forum.
At the point of doing so (and let me inform you of this) Guitar had also had a belly full of the bullshit and was at a loose end. He also realised that you were taken with 'agendas other than fme' and realised it wasn't going to work on your forum. And this had nothing to do with me. He's a free person with his own free will.
I offered him a subforum at Fruitworkz and thus he accepted. I made him a moderator of his subforum and it is up to him to run it as he sees fit.
As for convincing you to take him away from anything? Again, he is a person with his own free will. He chose FME (which is basically in a nutshell what he has said to me about it) and I said "OK man, sounds good".
Now. Seeing as I offered my advice to you on how I feel a successful FME forum (in it's rawest sense) should be ran and you clearly seemed to disagree with me there was little to no point in involving you with the Fruitworkz forum. You already showed me what you thought an FME site should be and I didn't agree. Which of course is fine. We're all adults and thus should behave that way.
I admitted you straight into my forum and you would have gotten the same treatment and grace of any other member. Nothing more, nothing less.
However it was not your forum. It belongs to Fruitworkz (some members have vocally said they are a part of it, some not). And thus the decision making was not up to you.
And this means that I do not 'owe' you anything and thus did not have to offer you moderator status on there.
FMEF is not soley bound to Fruitworkz and never will be. There is of course a FMEF area there just as there is and was on other forums. If Guitar decides to use it? fine ! If not? that's his call. See, we decided that the offer should be made and we made it. It really is that simple.
As for me calling FMEF my own project? please make contact with reality. Nowhere have I said any such thing that's just a false accusation.
OK regarding me reporting Dad to his hosts.
Yes I did. Want to know why?
Firstly I am not in a position in my life to act irresponsibly toward the gambling industry. That's all I am going to say, nuff said as it were.
Secondly that layout was not posted there
for any other reason than to goad me and attack me for deciding to have a few small t&c when it comes to the layouts
that I produce (lest we not forget that !)
The
only reason those T&C's were even put forth in the first place was because of history. I did it to represent myself as responsible and nothing more. The last thing I wanted of course was for them to be used in a manner to aim more vitriol at me. And they were, and thus I decided to do something about it.
That said, don't you dare to tell me I am 'low' or anything else. I am attacked, I do what I have to do to defend myself. However, you wouldn't understand that seeing as I have been (unfortunately) directed to a good few posts where you bad mouth me on a forum I can not and will not.. yawn.
So if you want to look for whose fault that is look in the mirror. I will only take so much. Words? I can take plenty and have for the past seven years. Please do not even dare to assume that you know how my thought process works.
For many many years I put my layouts in the most open accessible places (ff does not require registration to download attatchments) however because of the constant onslaught of bullshit (bullshit you are recently guilty of yourself) I have had to take action to protect myself and my interests.
Which, of course, would not have to happen if
fme really was just fme. Because then I would not have to worry about that.
As for me 'treating' you in any way? Sorry I totally fail to make the connection as to what you are talking about.
For three years I sat back and watched you bad mouth me on a forum and I had absolutely no idea who the hell you were. On and on it went until you finally sent me a pm saying "I had you all wrong and I fell in with the wrong crowd"
Personally I don't care what you do or what you did in the past. I accepted your apology and added you to msn. At which point it was quite apparent that you are having some kind of identity crisis.
Sorry, that's not my problem. If you want to play he said she said and get into aload of drama and politics that's fine. You can do what you like. And I, will inevitably do what I like.
Unsuprisingly then it won't involve you.
As for your accusations of me threatening Harvey.
Instead of listening to rumour you should try asking for the facts.
Like some other members Harvey decided to embark on a vitriolic campaign against me. However, he decided to use the front page of his website to do so. At which point I said I would go to his house and knock on his door in order to resolve it like gentlemen.
He failed to grasp that things that happen on the internet can affect someone's real life, so I said that maybe if the internet stepped into his real life he might understand.
Which tbh I said out of total frustration and because I felt completely stresed about about the hate campaign being aimed at me. Again something you will never understand because instead of being the one recieving all of this vitriol you are one of the few dishing it out.
The problem arose of course when a certain member decided to cross reference my post to Harvey with another one I had made trying to track down and old friend of mine. Of course, the person who did the tracking openly posted to say it wasn't Harvey I asked him to look for and since then I have emailed harvey
with the address of this person who used to live there so he can see for himself.The fact is I called Harvey's bluff and never did and still do not have his address. Now I'm sharp enough to realise that if I really wanted to I could have found him. But thankfully he has accepted my motives and reasons for saying what I did and we have moved on.
And those motives were literally a last ditch act out of desperation to stop someone from continuing a campaign of hate and spite toward me.
If you try and understand that then hey, it might make sense.
I don't want to make this personal but I know you have a child with some difficulties (I have mentioned this in private chats) but you have also posted on the mecca about it and I read it (so its public information).
Tell me. How would you feel if someone at school bullies him and makes his life completely miserable?
Would you get angry? maybe start shouting?
