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#21 mikey95

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 01:36 PM

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Worst thing i've come across would be the engineer would be the one who told a guy in my local a trick that involved putting quite a bit of money in - turns out he was taking the pi** and the guy lost a lot of cash.

The guy could get into trouble for that, surely?

Still, nobody likes the git anyway so we all found it funny.[/quote]


Must admit, i've done that before but i only do it with complete gits who usually are dead abusive/surly. :twisted:

#22 raverpat

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 01:52 PM

You also use to be able to use gas cooker lighters to empty certain machines. £3 Screenplay was one such machine, gamble to the £3 and zap the machine whilst it was clocking the money up in the bank. The machine reset and spat the £3 out of the bottom whilst it done it. When the machine came back on it had no memory of paying out. Another emptier I use to know was the On the buses emptier, the £7 on the board was a free win.
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#23 Bencrest

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 02:00 PM

Surely in old machines all you had to do was stick the piezo igniter sparky thingy into the coin gate at the top? At least thats how I understand it - used to give free credits apparently.

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#24 raverpat

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 02:05 PM

Apparently that use to work when the coin mech's had chrome around them. The shock travelled down the tube and made the coin gate jump at the bottom which racked you up some credits. Unfortunatly I never had the opportunity to try this. A similar trick to what I described earlier also use to work on Blue Moon and Cloud 9's.
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#25 buzzin_nutta

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 02:09 PM

Golden Game and Monopoly, does turning down £5 wins and just playing for the feature usually get you more then?

And if you turn down about 3 £5 wins is it likely to get you on the board?

I want to try this but want to know how risky it is.

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 03:49 PM

Golden Game and Monopoly, does turning down £5 wins and just playing for the feature usually get you more then?

And if you turn down about 3 £5 wins is it likely to get you on the board?

I want to try this but want to know how risky it is.

my advice is don't try this unless you no its full. turning down fivers does not mean after a few you will hit the top feature. but when ready can work in your favour make sure you have few quid when doing this . does anybody no if qps and mazooma are now using same tech as just played the new 3 player las vegas strip by qps and plays indentical to the golden game and monopoly

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 07:59 PM

First emptier I remember, was flicking 10ps into 50p slots. 30p profit and 2 credits a flick!

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:15 PM

Am I the only one who's noticed that this thread has turned from valid keypresses to downright fraud?...
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#29 Bencrest

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 08:18 PM

I agree...but then you have to realise that none of the 'fraud' mentioned in this thread is of relevance now...maybe in the 80's but the only way to fraud a machine now would be using fake coinage [which is hard given the coin mechs in use today]...or to use some form of jamming/manipulation device, and I would assume that they wouldn't work anymore either.

Bit of harmless nostalgia...but DON'T get caught attempting anything you read here!!

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:18 PM

if you all nice, i`ll tell you the dosh n pecks/fireball trick..




how nice do you want us to be..lol.just tell us

#31 mikey95

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:29 PM

I agree...but then you have to realise that none of the 'fraud' mentioned in this thread is of relevance now...maybe in the 80's but the only way to fraud a machine now would be using fake coinage [which is hard given the coin mechs in use today]...or to use some form of jamming/manipulation device, and I would assume that they wouldn't work anymore either.

Bit of harmless nostalgia...but DON'T get caught attempting anything you read here!!

BarcrestBenito


Thats all it is, a bit of nostalgia, i certainly wouldn't reccommend using the gas oven lighter, it doesn't work anymore and its illegal!!! :twisted:

#32 mikey95

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:36 PM


if you all nice, i`ll tell you the dosh n pecks/fireball trick..




how nice do you want us to be..lol.just tell us


AAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW go on........tell us!!!! :twisted:

#33 nails

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:40 PM

get 3,5 or 8? quid there for step to nearest, then gamble all the way up to loco hold, simple. tap away and the gamble goes right up....

if you lose, just row the amount you won back in, and try again..

works on fireball and the dosh n pecks

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Posted 06 March 2004 - 11:10 PM

get 3,5 or 8? quid there for step to nearest, then gamble all the way up to loco hold, simple. tap away and the gamble goes right up....

if you lose, just row the amount you won back in, and try again..

works on fireball and the dosh n pecks



erm.... i might be a pisshead (have to be working for leisurelink) but explain that a bit more easily for thickies like me!!!) please? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
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Posted 03 April 2005 - 07:54 PM

on colliseum the hi lo gambler 1, if you put 1p in it you get 2 quid worth of credits, an arcade in blackpool had about 5 of these machines and i emptied all off them in about 3 hours :)

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 11:22 PM

play the game/feature and manipulate the nearest win achievable to be one of the above, no, collect the feature and gamble up to loco-hold, but the trick aso, it to have the jackpot within view of the win line, it doesnt have to be staring at you, it could be right at the back of the reels, but obviously this comes round via the loco hold

what a mouthful

#37 Bencrest

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 11:34 PM

Cheers for that Nails, obvious when you think about it but you still need to win that gamble :)

I was wondering if theres been a rechip on Fireball / D & P because of the zero win from Cash Link that myself and a couple of others have mentioned. Not just a one off, did it to me 3 times in a row, and made me think there may be a rechip for something...
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Posted 04 April 2005 - 12:07 AM

I can remember when my local arcade changed the coin mechs to accept the new 10p coin.

They didnt do a good job and a 2p coin worked just fine in the 10p slot.

He sussed it out one day when someone complained that the Mr Fruit machine payed out 30p in 2p's instead of 15x10p's.

Good earner that before that happened.

#39 kensplace2

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Posted 04 April 2005 - 04:36 AM

There will always be a way to defraud a machine, sadly most of the fraud that goes on these days, is not from the machines, but from the suckers that think they can buy devices (car alarm keyfobs etc) to defraud the machines.

taking money illegally (without getting caught) is highly possible as they are not exactly very secure, but they are secure against the average punter. However if someone with access to the machines internals wanted to defraud it, its easy enough.

Come to think of it, its possible without that on some machines, but only if you know what you are doing, and have the skills / tools / nerve. I dont condone fraud, and dont do it, but after after being ripped of by awp owners I would not bat an eyelid, in fact would smile, if I heard someone got their own back (without causing any costly damage to machine).

How many people have been ripped off by arcades/pubs who deliberatly have "sticky" hold buttons
It takes less than a couple of minutes to fix the problem, without spending any money on parts!

How many people have been ripped of due to missing / dead / wrong colour bulbs?

Its a easy thing to replace bulbs, cheap, and heck machines have test facilites so you can easily see what bulbs are out.... No excuse to leave a dead bulb in for a long time.

How many people have been ripped off by IOU's that never get paid?
Thats fraud - if you ripped them off they would call the police, or worse.

Remember also, there is no such thing as a real emptier (one that empties ALL the cash from the machine) that you can play, as you can never get the cash out from the cashbox. All you can do is empty the hopper, which could be almost empty when you start anyway, as the machine has no idea how much money is actually in it. (it relies on accurate topping up and reporting of that fact, but its too easy to not be accurate -- on purpose...)

Then you have no way of knowing if the machine is set at the percentage it claims to be at, or worse, if its actually running legit roms (that one is probably rare but I would not be at all suprised if there are altered roms out there.....). At least in the USA big payouts have to have their machines checked out, and that includes verification of the code on the roms to make sure nothing is amiss before you get the win. Not only that, but I remember reading recently that some where in the usa machines cannot be licenced until the code has been checked out. Unlike over here, where anyone can write anything, and as long as they can pay the massive fees, they can sell it as a awp with NO CHECKS ON IT to make sure its not rigged in any way.

Thats why I dont mind if people get there own back sometimes.
Not that I condone it, or suggest it is a good idea - its not worth risking, getting caught could cause a lot of trouble for you!

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Posted 04 April 2005 - 02:58 PM

dosh and pecks/firebals still work a treat, i know i didnt explain it too well but it still works.




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