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[Matty.N]

He is a bad bad man pies, if he ever asks you if you want to go with him to see some puppies, don't go, because there is no puppies. Well their might be, but then again their might not be, but if you ask about the puppies then you definately will never get to see the puppies!

puppies what puppies?

there wasn't any puppies to begin with

[Geddy]

No, but neither did he. This was more a query about what "great stuff" is happening every day. What resources / layouts / emulators, anything, have you done lately? If he was around there'd be a few more layouts. Not that I am in any way justifying the stuff that went down. I'm just saying.

Erm hang on a moment. 'Neither did he?' So he never held the scene to ransom over EPEE? He never dictated to the scene it was to be done his way? He never did the FW site? Come on Guitar don't be so naive.

As for the 'good stuff' I mentioned this before. I never said 'good stuff' was layouts/roms/emulators did I?

Mr multiquote asks this, ohh the irony. Yes.

How is multiquoting attention seeking? Mulitquote is used to I can address individual points put to me. I fear you are clutching at straws a bit there.

Every day, "does anyone have a layout / emulator for [Insert game here]

Look up asking and begging. You will spot a difference. How about 'send me some cigs or money and I will only then produce more layouts for you?'

Define trouble.

As far as coders are concerned. Stealing code, leaking emulators. Posting 'knowledge' without consent. 'Bullying coders to do it 'his' way'... etc etc.

No, you do seem top have stopped this since he left. Although that is more an indicator of the trouble you have caused than he.

Yeah I cannot remember how many times I pretended to have coded not one but two emulators or made a website that only a certain few were allowed to sign up. Basically Guitar you are talking shit here. Also what is this indicator of the trouble I have caused I would love to know or are you going all Nemmie on me here?

Oh yesss. Don't you?

Erm no.

What, specifically?

Already covered this.

Yes because when CW was around he was always so kind and gentle and did everything we wanted. No, wait, he was so dictatorial it made the place look like a BNP conference.

I have my own views on CW and tbh it is not relevant here. I see where you are coming from though.

Only because he's gone away and you've stopped harking on about him being around (briefly). Not because anything has *changed*.

You have contradicted yourself there somewhat. That is my point he is not around to f*** things. Simple logic really.

Nothing appears to have changed, there's no more layouts (in fact less, on a weekly basis) or emulators than there were before. No people coming out of the woodwork to rejoin once all the fuss has died down.
Maybe I'm reading things wrongly, but it seemed like you were saying that if he left (was forced out) then the world would be rosy again, but its the same, just he isnt here.

The damage was done. It is not my fault CW, Re-A, DT etc have been f***ed over that much they cannot return. Maybe people should have listened 1st time instead of 10th time and then maybe then something could have been saved. Problem was he got let off time after time as a result of people being too soft with him and falling for his PM bullshit. Does that ring any bells? Or are you going to deny he PM'd you loads giving you suggestions on how things should be run or how chunty certain people are?

You sure this wasnt born out of jealousy because he was involved with a potential Epoch emu and you weren't? So if you couldn't have it no-one could? This ringing any bells?

No actually what it was born out of was that I knew if AT was involved it would be f***ed up..... guess what I was correct or do we have a public version of EPEE for download I have missed?

I could be very wrong, and if I am, I apologise wholeheartedly. BUT you have to admit, it does look very much like we were promised things would stop if he left.

People ask questions and deserve the truth. As the EPEE question was asked in this thread I answered. Or are folk not allowed the truth any more?

The thing we all seem to have glossed over is that the only reason there was any trouble, is because you stir it up whenever he returns so it looks like there is trouble where there isnt any.

Oh so I asked AT to donate loads of hoarded layouts to Duplu to help gain more funds when in fact AT had donated f*** all so I could start a fight? Did I? I mean did I really?
Also did I go crawling to DT with the idea of a private club where only certain people were allowed to gain said hoarded layouts and thus stoke my ego? Did I also suggest this so I could start a fight?

Come on Guitar wake up and smell the damn coffee....

Edited by Geddy, 23 October 2009 - 06:43 PM.

[cardie]

He is a bad bad man pies, if he ever asks you if you want to go with him to see some puppies, don't go, because there is no puppies. Well their might be, but then again their might not be, but if you ask about the puppies then you definately will never get to see the puppies!

id mention his name but its filterd pmsl well it rhymes with button but change the b to a t

[Matty.N]

id mention his name but its filterd pmsl well it rhymes with button but change the b to a t

and for the 1st name

remove the S from the lass that todd likes

[Toddyuk]

I do agree with Geddys views and visions of which way the scene has deflected thro certain people, I still tho can see we have alot to be gratful for deflection and passions, maybe we should take stock and just be plzed with whats in front of us since them events .

[Nemmie]

Gouty it is interesting that Guitar seems to have seen through your nonsense and appears to hold you in the same contempt that the other Emu authors do.

So in the history of FME there have been three major Emu programmers and they all wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire in fact I am pretty sure a few would throw some petrol on instead. And you blame someone else for ruining FME?

You show contempt for the people who created what you supposedly love but the actually facts of the matter are you just want to control it. Well now you are in control of it, you have no competition and yet you continue to froth at the mouth about events long past instead of steering your good ship FME into new waters. Maybe that's because you sunk that ship long ago and you didn't notice that you are frantically clinging on to an old piece of driftwood.

I know you are a little dense so look back at this thread and read it again, until this post, I have not mentioned anything to do with history or denied your version of events because I am long past caring and just popped by to point and laugh at your present stupidity and continuing obsession with history.

It's hardly stalking when I visit one forum and find you repeating yourself for the umpteenth time and I have just as much right to post here as you and if you continue to be retarded I will continue to point it out if I feel that I want to do so, although it does feel like shooting fish in a barrel nowadays.

For the record I was referring to your recent pointlessly nasty personal attack not your repeated venom aimed at your old enemy which to be frank I have read so many times that it has lost its effect.

You really are no sport any more. At least making you look silly when you were spouting poison about relevant current events was productive and necessary, now I can't help feeling a little sorry for you as you have swum around in ever decreasing circles for so long.

[piesthecat]

is it the 1 i got in trouble for mention his name in the chat box 1 night
athruis ?

[Geddy]

Gouty it is interesting that Guitar seems to have seen through your nonsense and appears to hold you in the same contempt that the other Emu authors do.

Is that the best you can do..geesus. Guitar has seen through nothing because like yourself has proven nothing, has brought no evidence to the table. I however have brought plenty of evidence to the table. You have read the EPEE threads I take it. Do we have proof of this emu author contempt?

So in the history of FME there have been three major Emu programmers and they all wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire in fact I am pretty sure a few would throw some petrol on instead. And you blame someone else for ruining FME?

And again you NEVER post any evidence of this. This is just your opinion which tbh is not really valued much. I mean you slag this place off and only my control of you brings you here posting. You are only after an argument, hardly a positive contribution to this site or the scene.

You show contempt for the people who created what you supposedly love but the actually facts of the matter are you just want to control it. Well now you are in control of it, you have no competition and yet you continue to froth at the mouth about events long past instead of steering your good ship FME into new waters. Maybe that's because you sunk that ship long ago and you didn't notice that you are frantically clinging on to an old piece of driftwood.

Again proof. Your kind that is all you do. Post attacks without backing them up. I might hold contempt for the way people allowed AT to walk all over them but even they now have seen the light. I don't want to control anything. Yeah I want to be involved. However I do not want one bloke to sit up top and destroy it just because he cannot get his own way - or did this not happen? <--- that is a question by the way.

I know you are a little dense so look back at this thread and read it again, until this post, I have not mentioned anything to do with history or denied your version of events because I am long past caring and just popped by to point and laugh at your present stupidity and continuing obsession with history.

A little dense? Okay. What do you base that assumption on? Do you have a psychology degree so you can assess me? Have you seen my C.V. so you can take a look at my educational achievements? Or again is this just another bullshit claim with no proof?

History is important. Hence it is taught in schools. How many times has the Nazi story been told? Or how many times has someone mentioned the 4th July? Are these as stupid in your eyes just because people tell the story over and over again?

It's hardly stalking when I visit one forum and find you repeating yourself for the umpteenth time and I have just as much right to post here as you and if you continue to be retarded I will continue to point it out if I feel that I want to do so, although it does feel like shooting fish in a barrel nowadays.

Not stalking but obsessive, you know what you are blaming me for doing. Think about that and then think how silly you are. You are doing EXACTLY what you are saying I am. And for your information if that is your stance you are pissing in the wind because every time someone asks about EPEE or anything else in the history of the scene I shall be there to post about it.

For the record I was referring to your recent pointlessly nasty personal attack not your repeated venom aimed at your old enemy which to be frank I have read so many times that it has lost its effect.

Can the 'victims' not fight their own battles? (AT dare not come back here as he is not so protected, although I'm sure a few PM's would get the threads locked.... can't beat the old slimy PM trick.) To be fair you are not really worth it as an adversary, not with your past 'issues.'

You really are no sport any more. At least making you look silly when you were spouting poison about relevant current events was productive and necessary, now I can't help feeling a little sorry for you as you have swum around in ever decreasing circles for so long.

Problem is you have never made me look silly because you support Tutton and his chain of events which have been discredited more times than I have had hot dinners. Go on tell us he DID code EPEE and he NEVER held the scene to ransom just one more time so we can all have another laugh.

[Guitar]

Erm hang on a moment. 'Neither did he?' So he never held the scene to ransom over EPEE? He never dictated to the scene it was to be done his way? He never did the FW site? Come on Guitar don't be so naive.

Essentially, in a very shortened form, he said "sit down, be quiet, and you'll get an EPOCH emulator". And some people did and other people wouldn't. Maybe if we had, we would've. Hard to tell now isn't it.

I dont agree with all the stunts he has pulled, I disagree and agree with you and he, and believe that there is two sides to the story. And as I wasnt around at the time I find it very hard to make a choice based on that. I have spoken to him personally and he's been an ok guy to me. Yes I am knowledgable of what went down beforehand, and I do keep that in mind, but I have to act upon how he was / is to me.

As for the 'good stuff' I mentioned this before. I never said 'good stuff' was layouts/roms/emulators did I?

No, you didn't, fair enough. But what did you mean? Seriously I am still unsure entirely what you mean by "good stuff".

How is multiquoting attention seeking? Mulitquote is used to I can address individual points put to me. I fear you are clutching at straws a bit there.

The multiquote isnt the attention seeking, just how I percieve your posts in general. Its the opinion of someone else posted on the internet, im sure you wont be losing any sleep over it.

Look up asking and begging. You will spot a difference. How about 'send me some cigs or money and I will only then produce more layouts for you?'

DId people pay it? If its percieved to be "worth it" then what does it matter, nothing stopping you doing some layouts and trying the same thing if you want. Not that I aree with it, but meh, cant blame someone for trying. At least he was selling his own time / work, unlike bagga bargain.

As far as coders are concerned. Stealing code, leaking emulators. Posting 'knowledge' without consent. 'Bullying coders to do it 'his' way'... etc etc.

Ok.

Yeah I cannot remember how many times I pretended to have coded not one but two emulators or made a website that only a certain few were allowed to sign up. Basically Guitar you are talking shit here. Also what is this indicator of the trouble I have caused I would love to know or are you going all Nemmie on me here?

My point wasnt about AT, it was you. Just because he has done wrong in the past doesnt mean you have to bring it up and go on and on and on about it. Especially when he has been "banished". You seem obsessed with mentioning him and /or his actions at any turn. Its pretty clear to everyone now that he isnt exactly a saint, lets just let it slide into history and move on. Moving on doesnt mean accepting wha he did, just that its the same old converstaion over and over again. If you put the same energy into making layouts or an emulator or something else, it'd be done 6 times over by now.

Already covered this.

As I said before, what specifically do you mean by "good stuff"?

I have my own views on CW and tbh it is not relevant here. I see where you are coming from though.

All Im really saying is, there seems to be some rose tinted glasses worn by a lot of peope about "the good old days" of fme.

The damage was done. It is not my fault CW, Re-A, DT etc have been f***ed over that much they cannot return. Maybe people should have listened 1st time instead of 10th time and then maybe then something could have been saved. Problem was he got let off time after time as a result of people being too soft with him and falling for his PM bullshit. Does that ring any bells? Or are you going to deny he PM'd you loads giving you suggestions on how things should be run or how chunty certain people are?

I wouldn't say "Loads". And yeah he did give me suggestions, but given I posted threads asking for suggestions, it seems a tad harsh to hold that against him.

Strangely enough the people he has said are chunty (whatever that means) do seem to be pretty much as he describes.

No actually what it was born out of was that I knew if AT was involved it would be f***ed up..... guess what I was correct or do we have a public version of EPEE for download I have missed?

Interesting logic. IF AT is involved then it will be f***ed up, so if I f*** it up before giving it time to progress, I'll be proved right.

People ask questions and deserve the truth. As the EPEE question was asked in this thread I answered. Or are folk not allowed the truth any more?

I would disagree with deserving the truth. All people really deserve is a bit of courtesy.
Not that they aren't allowed the truth (unless you are a bank and someone wants to audit you)
More just sometimes the truth is better off concealed for the good of all of them.

Oh so I asked AT to donate loads of hoarded layouts to Duplu to help gain more funds when in fact AT had donated f*** all so I could start a fight? Did I? I mean did I really?

I dunno, did you? I'd have to go back and read thru the archives to answer this fairly.

Also did I go crawling to DT with the idea of a private club where only certain people were allowed to gain said hoarded layouts and thus stoke my ego? Did I also suggest this so I could start a fight?

I got in, was great fun, there was a swimming pool. He also said there would be puppies

Come on Guitar wake up and smell the damn coffee....

Make me a coffee and we'll talk. Or is that begging.

I realise a lot of the later quotes I have kinda just tried to be funny, but Im bored of typing now. Will come back to this later.

I have an idea. What about feeding all that energy into finding roms we dont have? If an epoch emulator got released tomorrow we have what, 3 full sets including sound? Epoch being as faulty as it is means there might not be many around for long, so whilst they are still reasnobally abundant, instead of arguing, lets go rom hunting. If coinslot / bacta get their way it might be really quite hard to get roms soon, especially the older stuff.

[Geddy]

Essentially, in a very shortened form, he said "sit down, be quiet, and you'll get an EPOCH emulator". And some people did and other people wouldn't. Maybe if we had, we would've. Hard to tell now isn't it.

Exactly he was dictating to the scene. Why should we not be allowed to ask questions, especially with his track record.

I dont agree with all the stunts he has pulled, I disagree and agree with you and he, and believe that there is two sides to the story. And as I wasnt around at the time I find it very hard to make a choice based on that.

Fruit Forums - View Single Post - EPOCH Emulation - The Truth Please

^^^^^^ I think you will find you were around.

DId people pay it? If its percieved to be "worth it" then what does it matter, nothing stopping you doing some layouts and trying the same thing if you want. Not that I aree with it, but meh, cant blame someone for trying. At least he was selling his own time / work, unlike bagga bargain.

I think he had some contributors. It got worse though, remember him trying to get $500 for roms that he claimed to have got when myself and many others already had got them from the BBS? All very 'against the grain.'

My point wasnt about AT, it was you. Just because he has done wrong in the past doesnt mean you have to bring it up and go on and on and on about it. Especially when he has been "banished". You seem obsessed with mentioning him and /or his actions at any turn. Its pretty clear to everyone now that he isnt exactly a saint, lets just let it slide into history and move on. Moving on doesnt mean accepting wha he did, just that its the same old converstaion over and over again. If you put the same energy into making layouts or an emulator or something else, it'd be done 6 times over by now.

How do you think he for want of a better way 'con' people here? That is right he would go away whilst the dust settled and waited for more noobies to join then he would be back with a layout or too and PM the f*** out of the new guys to get support since they do not know about the history.
Like I said before you hear Nazi history or 4th July history talked about all the time because it is important we learn from it and not just forget.
If people ask questions then I feel if I can answer I will out of courtesy.

As I said before, what specifically do you mean by "good stuff"?

The generally harmony of the scene.

All Im really saying is, there seems to be some rose tinted glasses worn by a lot of peope about "the good old days" of fme.

Well I ain't got a pair on shall I say.

I would disagree with deserving the truth. All people really deserve is a bit of courtesy.
Not that they aren't allowed the truth (unless you are a bank and someone wants to audit you)
More just sometimes the truth is better off concealed for the good of all of them.

Like I said above on this one.

I have an idea. What about feeding all that energy into finding roms we dont have? If an epoch emulator got released tomorrow we have what, 3 full sets including sound? Epoch being as faulty as it is means there might not be many around for long, so whilst they are still reasnobally abundant, instead of arguing, lets go rom hunting. If coinslot / bacta get their way it might be really quite hard to get roms soon, especially the older stuff.

Maybe a lot of people think why the hell should we feed the inner circle which of course we are doing. We have 100s of rom sets for s4 and even s5 for example and you can bet your bottom dollar the IC are happily playing those layouts on their IC emulators.

[nails]

If coinslot / bacta get their way it might be really quite hard to get roms soon, especially the older stuff.

I replied to an ad by Alex Lee a few years ago, infact my reply was published. But my point here is that Coinslot indeed many magazines, throw rediculous debaits into the wind purely for story purposes. stopping the sale of fruit machines on ebay is not exactly what they are saying, its the sale via vendors who do not have a gaming license.

(the article in question was regarding cheats available on ebay. My reply was these so called cheats are all for machines that are not in use anymore or rechips issued. I finally went on to say that perhaps the finger should be pointed in the direction of the programmers who initially place the backdoor cheats in there - and not the 99p reseller on ebay for cheats to a 10 year old machine.)

Edited by nails, 24 October 2009 - 10:27 PM.
illiterate fuck

[Guitar]

Exactly he was dictating to the scene. Why should we not be allowed to ask questions, especially with his track record.

On the other hand, given what you already knew, what harm would it have done to just let it take its natural course?

Fruit Forums - View Single Post - EPOCH Emulation - The Truth Please

^^^^^^ I think you will find you were around.

I meant I wasnt around when all the original stuff he did (which is what you cite your hate on) happened. Of course I was around when epee happened.

The generally harmony of the scene.

What harmony? You wont even try to find roms because it means someone might play them before you get to.

Maybe a lot of people think why the hell should we feed the inner circle which of course we are doing. We have 100s of rom sets for s4 and even s5 for example and you can bet your bottom dollar the IC are happily playing those layouts on their IC emulators.

So your argument is you wont collect roms to help the scene later on, because someone you dont like / agree with might play them first. Talk about shooting yourself / the scene in the foot.

Not only is that a bit backwrds to begin with, its not exactly encouraging to people with roms to step forward is it.



Also, where's my coffee

[Guitar]

I replied to an ad by Alex Lee a few years ago, infact my reply was published. But my point here is that Coinslot indeed many magazines, throw rediculous debaits into the wind purely for story purposes. stopping the sale of fruit machines on ebay is not exactly what they are saying, its the sale via vendors who do not have a gaming license.

(the article in question was regarding cheats available on ebay. My reply was these so called cheats are all for machines that are not in use anymore or rechips issued. I finally went on to say that perhaps the finger should be pointed in the direction of the programmers who initially place the backdoor cheats in there - and not the 99p reseller on ebay for cheats to a 10 year old machine.)

Of course these magazines do create their own news, but on the other hand, its not unlikely they'll get one right one day.

[RHM]

so when is rainbow riches being leaked then?

[Geddy]

On the other hand, given what you already knew, what harm would it have done to just let it take its natural course?

It's natural course was doomed. Like I said before.

I meant I wasnt around when all the original stuff he did (which is what you cite your hate on) happened. Of course I was around when epee happened.

Fair enough but then maybe you should find out about these things before wading in. Or is it a case of its history best leave it alone?

What harmony? You wont even try to find roms because it means someone might play them before you get to.

I know you might not realise this but I obtain roms nearly every day and make them available to anyone who wants them.

So your argument is you wont collect roms to help the scene later on, because someone you dont like / agree with might play them first. Talk about shooting yourself / the scene in the foot.

I think you will find I said 'Maybe a lot of people...' Also like I say above I get roms nearly every day.

However I can see the point of 'those' people. Why should they be lining the nest of a half a dozen people and some of them people post here?

After all there is only one person stopping CW releasing newer versions of MFME and that is himself. No one else is to blame, no one.

Maybe Also, where's my coffee

Shit sorry.... milk and sugar?

[Geddy]

so when is rainbow riches being leaked then?

It already has......... bhaaaaawawawawawawawawaw