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[kriss]

Just Downloaded this one...Thanks Ady

[ady]

The shortcut for cancel is missing, playtesters pfffft so if you wanna make one it's simple enough(just in case you don't know how)
with the game loaded "click on *design/ edit mode" and RIGHT CLICK on the "cancel button" / properties/ and add shortcut(usually the tilde key left of (1) apply.
then you need to save the layout, so go design -layout/game "save layout" you will be asked to overwrite the previous layout/ confirm.
then exit design mode and play away.

Download amended, thanks

[hornynick]

The shortcut for cancel is missing, playtesters pfffft so if you wanna make one it's simple enough(just in case you don't know how)
with the game loaded "click on *design/ edit mode" and RIGHT CLICK on the "cancel button" / properties/ and add shortcut(usually the tilde key left of (1) apply.
then you need to save the layout, so go design -layout/game "save layout" you will be asked to overwrite the previous layout/ confirm.
then exit design mode and play away.


Many thanks for the layout ady. much appreciated.

How do you edit layouts in 3.2?
If try to do this in 9.4 then save it will chop off the buttons.

[hitthesix]

How do you edit layouts in 3.2?
If try to do this in 9.4 then save it will chop off the buttons.

You can't edit using mfme. 3.2.
ady has updated the layout afaik.

[hornynick]

You can't edit using mfme. 3.2.
ady has updated the layout afaik.

I always assumed as much, but it was something I always meant to ask. cheers.

[c0nfu53d]

I have to ask. Who the heck are whitbread? Never heard of 'em. Did they make any more machines or just this one?

Nice layout BTW.

[Dougsta]

Whitbread is also a brewer, my local used to be owned by them.

I'd imagine (as does Bingo etc) they had their own ROMs made up at a set percentage with the little advert as an added touch.

[£6 In Tokens]

You edit a machine that runs purely in MFME 3.2 in either MFME 2.0 or MFME 10.1 (save it), then run in a MFME 3.2 (this sometimes is not as easy as you think, not until you get the hang of it. MS Notepad is your best friend with this, enabling you to open the GAM file to see what are game roms from sound roms as both Sound & Game roms are BIN files).

Thanks for the layout Ady

Edited by £6 In Tokens, 11 March 2010 - 02:09 PM.

[hornynick]

Whitbread is also a brewer, my local used to be owned by them.

I'd imagine (as does Bingo etc) they had their own ROMs made up at a set percentage with the little advert as an added touch.

AFAIK Whitbread had machines that were exclusive to them before going on "general release". This is the first time I have seen anything over than a BFM being a WHitbread exclusive though.

[Dougsta]

AFAIK Whitbread had machines that were exclusive to them before going on "general release". This is the first time I have seen anything over than a BFM being a WHitbread exclusive though.

I think you're absolutely right there. The post you quoted wasn't by me, it was by ady who accidentally edited my original post!

(lol sorry mate..Edit and Delete is too close...Ady)

I've always wondered about this. If you inspect ROM .hex files, you will see Whitbread mentioned in almost all of them. Check out the Frenzy MPU5 ROM file I have attached for example.

I first saw the Whitbread thing on a Queen Vic in the wild, but in an arcade rather than Whitbread bar. The emulated version also has this going on. I thought it was something particular to Queen Vic. When I saw the mention of Whitbread in the .hex files, I thought the creator of the emulator had somehow used Queen Vic as a base for creating the emu, and the Whitbread text had just been duplicated across various different .hex files.

Now I think I was wrong, and this was something manus automatically put in all their ROMs so they could easily make them a Whitbread exclusive. Looks like Barcrest were in on the Whitbread thing as well. Hope this rambling post makes some sort of sense to somebody :-)

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[hornynick]

I think you're absolutely right there. The post you quoted wasn't by me, it was by ady who accidentally edited my original post!

(lol sorry mate..Edit and Delete is too close...Ady)

I've always wondered about this. If you inspect ROM .hex files, you will see Whitbread mentioned in almost all of them. Check out the Frenzy MPU5 ROM file I have attached for example.

I first saw the Whitbread thing on a Queen Vic in the wild, but in an arcade rather than Whitbread bar. The emulated version also has this going on. I thought it was something particular to Queen Vic. When I saw the mention of Whitbread in the .hex files, I thought the creator of the emulator had somehow used Queen Vic as a base for creating the emu, and the Whitbread text had just been duplicated across various different .hex files.

Now I think I was wrong, and this was something manus automatically put in all their ROMs so they could easily make them a Whitbread exclusive. Looks like Barcrest were in on the Whitbread thing as well. Hope this rambling post makes some sort of sense to somebody :-)

When Whitbread owned "proper" pubs I don't know how they operated with thier fruitys, (bit before my time ) but I assume they were in-house because of the branding. If that was the case when they sold thier estate off in the late 90s/early 00s machines would have probably gone to the highest bidder, which is probably why you saw Queen Vic in an arcade. There would probably have been hundreds of units dotted here, there and everywhere including pubs where the machine were bought by the likes of Leisure Link and Crown etc.
As I say this is pure speculation, based on limited knowledge......I may be miles off the mark.

[Johnnyafc]

Thanks

Found Alex's 'Shitbread' Explanation

'P.S. I was in a f***er of a mood when I did this write-up - hence the venom and nastiness. The Whitbread explanation is in the second paragraph.

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4th June - ** NEW RELEASE ** - "UP POMPAY" CLASSIC - Combined ROM & layout

Somewhat against my better judgment I quite like this one. It's an ACE machine and it's far from their best - especially when held up against the likes of the all conquering Caesar's Palace and the splendid Kung-Fu (you'll be needing JPeMu to run it by the way, ACE is JPM's sister company and they use IMPACT hardware). Moreover, this is the horribly bastardised "Whitbread" version of Up Pompay (check out the alphanumeric on the screenshot below), which is never going to help things along.....

The story is as follows, the Whitbread chain of pubs didn't want "normal" fruities in their taverns, presumably because they attract nasty professional players who don't belong in (cough) "family pubs" and discourage casual players, (you know, the errant "mothers" and "fathers" who are so f*****g concerned about the welfare of their children that they drag them along to a pub for lunch and fool themselves that the presence of a shitty playground with broken swings excuses them smoking, drinking and gambling whilst their children grow bored and listless (or they maybe let their four year old daughter press some of the buttons to really get into that gambling swing of things as a special treat) - why not just go to the f*****g park with a picnic and be a proper parent or not f*****g bother at all?).

Anyway, yes, the point being that Whitbread didn't want (for whatever reason) standard issue fruit machines on their premises. So what the manufacturers came up with were extraordinarily flat profile versions of their machines - the net result of this bizarre brain f***ery are lots of bonuses and wins and features, the vast majority of which will never be worth more than £3 or £4, and if you press for more than that you'll get killed off double quick. Indeed, the machine's desire not to pay out a jackpot or streak is so strong that it'll hold on and on until it rather pathetically spins a jackpot straight in (and then kill you off if you try and push for the repeater).

So why do I like this then? Well it's a reasonably cheerful affair in its own little way, the sound and music are competent enough, the usual JPM bonuses are all present and correct, genuine skill does enter the equation occasionally and if you push on and on past the stupid jackpot spins until it finally *has* to give you the repeater (which only costs a few extra quid) you can squeeze a half-decent streak out of its unusually tight arse. It's not a good machine, but it's not good in a way that one can learn to live with and grow accustomed to in time; unlike Pinball Wizard for example, which is not good in a way that compels people to bang their head repeatedly against a wall to induce a terrible headache so that taking fifty aspirins suddenly seems like a rippingly good idea and death becomes a mere pleasant side effect.

On top of that, Harvey's come up trumps with his usual high quality classic layout - pleasingly close to the real machine, very well laid out, thoughtful keyboard shortcuts (there's a feature exchange and a number exchange, "E" is used for the feature exchange (as tradition dictates) so I guessed at "N" for number exchange and yes, that was it) and a crisp, tidy design. It's nice to know that one of the old masters has still got it when and where it counts.

Don't get me wrong though, if you ever came across a real Up Pompay (Whitbreadf***ed or not) you'd allow yourself a fiver, maybe a tenner, tops - and that's if you had to play it at all (you know how it is, when sometimes you *have* to play fruit machines....). But as an emulated machine it's a perfectly pleasant way to spend a few hours, especially to try and find a way around that evil Whitbread chip. (And their beer's not much f*****g better either).'