Torrent Sites - Illegal Downloads
Started by nails, Sep 26 2010 11:35 PM
29 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 26 September 2010 - 11:35 PM
It has come to my attention that a good friend has just been busted for downloading a film from a torrent site. a letter arrived on his door step from a solicitor warning of court action if the sum of some £700 was not paid.
the letter indeed detailed the download file he acquired from BT junkie, and went on to explain that he should delete the file immediately and that if £700 was not paid then court action would follow.
Whilst the letter was real, has anybody else had or heard of letters like this, and am i right in thinking that the said person should not have to pay, as the IP address only goes to a house, and doesnt pinpoint who exactly downloaded the program. i pointed out that you could argue the file was corrupt and un-usable? would that stick in court?
the letter indeed detailed the download file he acquired from BT junkie, and went on to explain that he should delete the file immediately and that if £700 was not paid then court action would follow.
Whilst the letter was real, has anybody else had or heard of letters like this, and am i right in thinking that the said person should not have to pay, as the IP address only goes to a house, and doesnt pinpoint who exactly downloaded the program. i pointed out that you could argue the file was corrupt and un-usable? would that stick in court?
#2
Posted 26 September 2010 - 11:59 PM
I have seen loads of these and the best advice is never to pay. They just connect to a swarm get a all the ip's and send letters to all the addresses hoping that someone will panic and pay the fee.
This is a standard thing that the mappa does now.
Tell your friend not to worry and just tell him to join a private tracker and to use ghost ip.
Hope this helps
This is a standard thing that the mappa does now.
Tell your friend not to worry and just tell him to join a private tracker and to use ghost ip.
Hope this helps
#3
Posted 27 September 2010 - 01:43 AM
Yeah. Whe i sober up, (dont hold your breath) i will provide the info needed but its basically 2LAW FIRMS" Hoping for the best. ignorre it.
#4
Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:21 AM
The following will be of help....
Davenport Lyons and ACS:Law, one and the same, and they just love to try strong arming folks in to paying up through bully boy tactics.
New piece here @ El Reg....
http://www.theregist...withstand_ddos/
BTW, they BOTH just got the shite DDoS'd out of them.
The following is a good EG what BS these monkeys get up to, and how to tackle them.....
http://www.digitalsp...d.php?t=1028774
Basic advice seams to be..... ignore the letters, they are just trying to put the squeeze on to you, similar tricks as used by these ambulance chaser law firms.
Davenport Lyons and ACS:Law, one and the same, and they just love to try strong arming folks in to paying up through bully boy tactics.
New piece here @ El Reg....
http://www.theregist...withstand_ddos/
BTW, they BOTH just got the shite DDoS'd out of them.
The following is a good EG what BS these monkeys get up to, and how to tackle them.....
http://www.digitalsp...d.php?t=1028774
Basic advice seams to be..... ignore the letters, they are just trying to put the squeeze on to you, similar tricks as used by these ambulance chaser law firms.
#5
Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:39 AM
UPDATE..... Looks like there is a group action case being compiled right now, against these scumbags....
http://www.ralli.co....ward&archive=no
http://www.ralli.co....ward&archive=no
#6
Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:46 AM
chhers stan. save me some time. i was gonna link to various ds threads theress aboutt 4/5 of then. as u said its all scaremongering. |I would still ove to know how they get there info. over the past 3/4 tears i must have dowlnoaed 1000s of gbs of tv progs/films and never even got a warning from my isp for going over my monthly limit. and we used to be on the sky free tarriff which was something stipid like 2gb a onth.
#7
Posted 27 September 2010 - 08:20 AM
Hi there, i would not pay mate as others have said these groups will download a file and snatch all the ip's they then send letters out to scam money out of people.
I have been downloading about 200-300 gigs every m onth for about 3 years now and have never had any probs..
The safest way i would say mate is join a private tracker as most of these public ones wil cause you hassle one way or another..
If allowed i will pass a few invites over to people but i dont have mega amounts of them...
If you do require an invite send me a message and i will see what i can sort for you..
I have been downloading about 200-300 gigs every m onth for about 3 years now and have never had any probs..
The safest way i would say mate is join a private tracker as most of these public ones wil cause you hassle one way or another..
If allowed i will pass a few invites over to people but i dont have mega amounts of them...
If you do require an invite send me a message and i will see what i can sort for you..
#8
Posted 27 September 2010 - 08:50 AM
Deny all knowledge, claim someone used your internet, say sat outside your house on your wifi, and its up to them to prove otherwise.
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#9
Posted 27 September 2010 - 12:51 PM
while we are on the subject of torrents , the laws in certian countrys are coming down hard on torrent sites as pirate bay got hit a few months back and they raided one of there servers but as they say pirate bay never dies !!! and also ive been banned from downloading from any torrent site but pirate bay so im wondering if there banning aswell ???
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#10
Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:39 PM
'Guitar', on 27 Sept 2010 - 09:15 AM, said:
Deny all knowledge, claim someone used your internet, say sat outside your house on your wifi, and its up to them to prove otherwise.
Fkin right...£700 ?? Jeeeziz fkk that seems like outright extortion to me..and yeah there is no way they can prove WHO downloaded it..so if someone makes a hoax phone call from your landline it needs to be you that done it ?
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#11
Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:51 PM
'Guitar', on 27 Sept 2010 - 09:15 AM, said:
Not true anymore. The Digital Millenium Act (or something like that!) made the owner/billpayer of the BB connection liable for everything that is downloaded using that connection, even if it had been hacked. The act says its up to the owner to make sure all the security features are in place.Deny all knowledge, claim someone used your internet, say sat outside your house on your wifi, and its up to them to prove otherwise.
If you search Digital Spy there is at least one thread that goes into the details of it all, I have very limited knowledge.
#12
Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:54 PM
'hornynick', on 27 Sept 2010 - 6:16 PM, said:
Not true anymore. The Digital Millenium Act (or something like that!) made the owner/billpayer of the BB connection liable for everything that is downloaded using that connection, even if it had been hacked. The act says its up to the owner to make sure all the security features are in place.
If you search Digital Spy there is at least one thread that goes into the details of it all, I have very limited knowledge.
Hmmmm...spose they could argue that "the buck stops at you" your broadaband..your responsibilty to make sure whos using it or not...still seems well unfair though.
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#13
Posted 27 September 2010 - 06:11 PM
apart from a private tracker, what is the best was to fake an IP with a torrent program ?
#14
Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:46 PM
'nails', on 27 Sept 2010 - 6:36 PM, said:
apart from a private tracker, what is the best was to fake an IP with a torrent program ?
Any programme that has ghost ip in it.
There is a few good ones floating around where they bounce your ip off of servers all over the world so they csn never pin point you.
The only downside to these are, most private trackers dont allows these programmes for security reasons, but if you are using a public tracker defo load one.
Search the net and im sure you will find a good tutorial on how to install and active it.
#15
Posted 27 September 2010 - 09:32 PM
'nails', on 27 Sept 2010 - 12:00 AM, said:
mate dont download movies from torrents and shyt its very bad neew the letter is fake they found your i.p using there cookies this letter is just lie a pop up you do what it says you get a virus dont do what it says or 700 quid outa your pocket i wach movies all the time and download i will give you a site were you can download them no torrents ok you can download them and watch them here. http://www.thebigmoviedb.org/It has come to my attention that a good friend has just been busted for downloading a film from a torrent site. a letter arrived on his door step from a solicitor warning of court action if the sum of some £700 was not paid.
the letter indeed detailed the download file he acquired from BT junkie, and went on to explain that he should delete the file immediately and that if £700 was not paid then court action would follow.
Whilst the letter was real, has anybody else had or heard of letters like this, and am i right in thinking that the said person should not have to pay, as the IP address only goes to a house, and doesnt pinpoint who exactly downloaded the program. i pointed out that you could argue the file was corrupt and un-usable? would that stick in court?
#16
Posted 28 September 2010 - 10:07 AM
heres a good one, its called Auto Hide IP 4.6.7.2, you can auto assign a fake IP (then goto whats my ip to find if its working). you can also choose an ip address from any country!
install the program and then install the crack over the .exe original
install the program and then install the crack over the .exe original
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#17
Posted 28 September 2010 - 01:10 PM
LMAO, ACS:Law are in trouble again, over a massive and inexcusable data leak....
http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-11425789
http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-11425789
#18
Posted 28 September 2010 - 02:13 PM
This is what happened to me ant 3 of these is enough for me in done with torrents there bad news there is other ways to get stuff without this
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#19
Posted 28 September 2010 - 02:38 PM
Having not seen the letter i would say i have herd alot about con men who try and get money from people by sending these sort of letters so be sure its genuine to!!!!!
#20
Posted 28 September 2010 - 03:39 PM
'nails', on 28 Sept 2010 - 10:32 AM, said:
heres a good one, its called Auto Hide IP 4.6.7.2, you can auto assign a fake IP (then goto whats my ip to find if its working). you can also choose an ip address from any country!
install the program and then install the crack over the .exe original
The crack folder was empty!
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