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[chris_newton]

Hi all

I have a Bell Fruit Club viva Mexico Fruit machine, and as previously stated in posts, when i switch it on it works fine, however after an hour or so, ALL the lights go out, the machine still plays fine, ie, sound, reels spin and the LED display works but none of the other lights work.

I have been told on here that its probably the power pack causing this. Attached is a pic of my power pack, can anyone please advise the best place to buy one of these and also what cost i am looking at?

Thanks

Chris

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[keykey2299]

does this machine not have a lamps driver board??

EDIT: maybe a dry solder joint when the board warms up.? i wouldnt be banging a new pack in just yet, but thats me.

maybe somebody else has an idea.

and around 25-30 quid, maybe cheaper. and ebay is always good for these, theres quite a few on now

Edited by keykey2299, 08 October 2010 - 05:48 PM.

[chris_newton]

does this machine not have a lamps driver board??

???? thats threw me? what do you mean by that???

[keykey2299]

some machines have a seperate board that controls the lamps on the machines. hang on ill see if i can find a picture of 1. then you know what your looking at, do you have the manual for this machine?

[keykey2299]

this is a typical example of a lamp driver board.

[chris_newton]

yes i have a manual, what am i looking for in it???

[cardie]

Scorp4's are all in one, so one motherboard for pretty much everything.

[chris_newton]

so does this mean a new power pack wont fix it?

[cardie]

so does this mean a new power pack wont fix it?

Probably not, have you taken the steel casing off the motherboard? Check for any corrosion around the battery (it will be like a green gunky shit all in one spot)

[chris_newton]

Probably not, have you taken the steel casing off the motherboard? Check for any corrosion around the battery (it will be like a green gunky shit all in one spot)

well out of my league..anyone in north east wanna fix it !!!

[Starleisure]

well out of my league..anyone in north east wanna fix it !!!

Just buy a new scorp 4 off ebay.

Cardies right its an all in one board but i doubt the battery was the issue.

[goodstone]

Its sound like a psu fault.

When the lights go out check to see if one of the green l.e.d lights on the scorp board is off. Its sounds like a switch mode psu fault.

[Starleisure]

Its sound like a psu fault.

When the lights go out check to see if one of the green l.e.d lights on the scorp board is off. Its sounds like a switch mode psu fault.

If the machine still runs the reels - leds - sound and only drops the lamps im sure the psu is fine as you would be dropping a voltage 5+ 12+ 24+ so-on.

If you drop one your take out more than just lamps im sure.

[cardie]

If a voltage drops a lot the machine will pick it up and give an error aswell as if it never picked one up in the first place? Though like some machines are constantly monitoring everything some machines only check for things like this on a start up.

[goodstone]

Im still sure its a psu fault. On later bell fruits they have a fuse board in the bottom of machine to the right of the psu to stop this from messing up the psu.

I dont post often but i am a service tech for awps and use to comming with these problems. If it was the scorp board it would of taken out the transistors. You basiclly would smell if it was a mpu problem.


If you want to confirm it is psu. I would play the machine until the lamps fail. Then open up top door and check the green l.e.d's on scorp board are all on. Im pretty sure that one of them will be off.

also there are different voltage lines for lamps as well as payout and mpu board funtions. the only time it wouldnt start if there is no 12v or 5v which would cuse cctalk errors or on on scorp 4 boards "hopper error"

I could be wrong but replacing psu should fixed this.

Edited by goodstone, 13 October 2010 - 01:01 PM.

[skabaz]

Im still sure its a psu fault. On later bell fruits they have a fuse board in the bottom of machine to the right of the psu to stop this from messing up the psu.

I dont post often but i am a service tech for awps and use to comming with these problems. If it was the scorp board it would of taken out the transistors. You basiclly would smell if it was a mpu problem.


If you want to confirm it is psu. I would play the machine until the lamps fail. Then open up top door and check the green l.e.d's on scorp board are all on. Im pretty sure that one of them will be off.

also there are different voltage lines for lamps as well as payout and mpu board funtions. the only time it wouldnt start if there is no 12v or 5v which would cuse cctalk errors or on on scorp 4 boards "hopper error"

I could be wrong but replacing psu should fixed this.

i would agree with this but also it may be the connections that plug into the power supply.the actual plugs that plug from the mpu to the power pack can become slightly corroded and cause this fault.

we just bought 2 cops and robbers gold club machines and one of them had this exact fault and it was the connectors and not the power supply(but it can be the power supply as well)

[goodstone]

i would agree with this but also it may be the connections that plug into the power supply.the actual plugs that plug from the mpu to the power pack can become slightly corroded and cause this fault.

we just bought 2 cops and robbers gold club machines and one of them had this exact fault and it was the connectors and not the power supply(but it can be the power supply as well)

Yep i agree. You should try that as well. But its usually the switch mode on the psu at fault.

[cgleisure]

your psu is faulty
also that looks like the old type psu that you have got
if you get another one get the type that has a fan on top as they dont heat up as much as the old type

[Cyberbob]

I agree with above , those stadium PSU units have caused me no end of hassle, doing the strangest of things,

You defo need the newest version with the larger caps & the fan inside, 20 25 quid off ebay.

Its worth as all the others have said, checking connectors ect before spending money.

[impact]

PSU after 11 years of being hammered defo PSU try putting it into lamp test should pack up after 5/10min if your lucky