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[Sparkz]

Just cant believe what the hell is up these days with gambling in general.

Gambling always does end up in a loss overall but there used to be a fine line back nearly 10 years ago.

For example, you could play on 1 machine 1 day a week for a month. 3 of those times lost £10 each time but have a while of playtime... then on the 4th time you could profit by £30 so overall for the month a £10 loss but still had lots of gameplay.



Its just sooo horrible how its become.


Every single time for a year that I played £70jp machines I had a massive loss (losing basically £100 each time). A complete waste. Then the only luck I had was not so long ago. I played 3 or 4 DOND machines. I won something like 3 £70 jp's and 1 £40 win... but with the money that I had already put into them to get the wins I only ended up with £10 profit.

Not so long ago I lost £60 on a DOND machine... then a friend put in over £150 of his cash into it... but nope...nada, no sign of JP, in fact on my spins the highest win I could of taken was £3 and even with his £150 put in the highest offer was a measly £12.


Hating getting ripped off so much

[hurricane]

Just had a few new machines put in my local arcade, one of which being 'It's Amazing' set to £70... but when i checked the percentage of it, it was set to 70%. I know percentages dont mean that much but come on... for a 70 pounder WTH!?

[nails]

the days of smash and grab, 20p £3 are long gone - call it inflation.

i'd like to know how you checked that it was on 70% when the minimum is 72%?

the losses you speak of are nothing to the horror stories ive seen first hand on a DOND, some £460 put into a single machine (that offered £40 after the first 20 in so assumed it was going) and only offered its first jackpot after £460 in. a week later the same guy playing the same machine did it again to the tune of £480 in the same machine.

20p £3 was a good game at 15/1. now however the odds are far higher at £1 £70 = 70/1. playing it on 50p or 30p really is not helping the problem, you cant win and the odds just get higher. AWP machines just dont do it for me anymore. if i have a spare £20, i`d rather put it in the roulette or play rainbow riches etc.

[hurricane]

the days of smash and grab, 20p £3 are long gone - call it inflation.

i'd like to know how you checked that it was on 70% when the minimum is 72%?

the losses you speak of are nothing to the horror stories ive seen first hand on a DOND, some £460 put into a single machine (that offered £40 after the first 20 in so assumed it was going) and only offered its first jackpot after £460 in. a week later the same guy playing the same machine did it again to the tune of £480 in the same machine.

20p £3 was a good game at 15/1. now however the odds are far higher at £1 £70 = 70/1. playing it on 50p or 30p really is not helping the problem, you cant win and the odds just get higher. AWP machines just dont do it for me anymore. if i have a spare £20, i`d rather put it in the roulette or play rainbow riches etc.

It said so on the machine by the coin slot. It really did say 70%.

[ady]

This is British, and pre-printed.

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[ady]

the days of smash and grab, 20p £3 are long gone - call it inflation.

i'd like to know how you checked that it was on 70% when the minimum is 72%?

the losses you speak of are nothing to the horror stories ive seen first hand on a DOND, some £460 put into a single machine (that offered £40 after the first 20 in so assumed it was going) and only offered its first jackpot after £460 in. a week later the same guy playing the same machine did it again to the tune of £480 in the same machine.

20p £3 was a good game at 15/1. now however the odds are far higher at £1 £70 = 70/1. playing it on 50p or 30p really is not helping the problem, you cant win and the odds just get higher. AWP machines just dont do it for me anymore. if i have a spare £20, i`d rather put it in the roulette or play rainbow riches etc.

Said this 100's of times to people,never go off what the decal says,normally they are default from the factory,barcrests default used to say 80%,but thats not to say the machine is higher or if your in a shit hole lower.Nobles have gam care decals on all there machines saying minimum payout of 70% but i know full well all of there 20/30p/50p/ play games are on 88% and higher.

There's the discrepancy,

[fruitman69]

Its not rocket science,

Minimum 70% Payout displayed just means that, 70% as a minimum, it can be set higher of course.

It just saves them having to change it each time the adjust the percentage, few places i have worked had them on 84% but still had them showing 70% on the sticker.

1 - 2 months a year they were put on 78% from 84% and saved us having to change the sticker as well thats all.

[Proud and Mary]

l am up to here with fruit machines altogether now, its always the same shit story time and time again
l've lost 973 pounds in the last 5/6 mths and its come to the point yet again to say enough is enough

its the same old story, me and a mate decide c'mon lets try a few quid in DOND only to get a shit board everytime
ie cash scroll bollocks or rise'n'crap before the questionmark ? which is 99/100 gameover or similar. hi/lo anyone

its got to the point where we just cash or bust the f*cker everytime now

a few times we got 50 quid on cash or bust which was great but to be honest 25 quid each int really gonna cut it when
you're POUNDS DOWN.

its the same old story , you get on deal or no deal and it offers 7.61 or some rubbish amount so we no deal all the way
to 1p or 10p or 50p in the box in the end.

but wait THE PHONES ARE GOING RED !!! we're in here erm maybe not time and time again

oh look we'll hold the phones on SPIN and go hi/lo till one phone away never to get it on the board
and l have never seen any of the higher features offered or 3 Phones STREAK EVER EVER

it wouldn't be so bad if it let you on DEAL OR NO DEAL much more often even if it only gives you 3 or 4 quid but
no thats to much for BELLFRUITS to program into the microchip

even tonight we got loads of boards for the 3 quid or lose scenario,we even got the all blue boxes streak for
a lousy 15 quid,ended up went away 30 quid each down
so heres my DOND RUNDOWN for anyone who cares to be interested

? = GAMEOVER
Multiadd = ADDS NOTHING REALLY
Cash or Bust = BUST (but occassionally 50 quid)
Bankers Message = F*CK ALL ALLWAYS ( l mean whats this collect 0.50 for guarenteed repeat nonsense l mean really
Box clever = racks em up great never to give you the deal or no deal to win any of it
Taxi = no point if l need a spin for DOND but doesn't even go to that square

l have finally decided to call it a day,(ps been here 100's of times) but really this time l mean it fingersx
they are just so immensely money grabbing intensive nowadays its not fun anymore.its f*cking sad really
the pubs cant even be arsed to fix faulty bulbs on the deal or no deal bit so you cant see whats gone,
l am determined to stop for ever off them now and just warn anyone on here (if the dont already know) they are
a HUGE WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY

[ady]

Its not rocket science,

Minimum 70% Payout displayed just means that, 70% as a minimum, it can be set higher of course.

It just saves them having to change it each time the adjust the percentage, few places i have worked had them on 84% but still had them showing 70% on the sticker.

1 - 2 months a year they were put on 78% from 84% and saved us having to change the sticker as well thats all.

That wasn't the reason for the image posted Steve.

[hurricane]

Thanks for clearing it up guys . Do RED gaming machines seem to have a block, because i was pumping money into 'copper load of this' and it would block everytime it got to a fiver regardless to whether your on a 11 or a 2 it would always go to a 12 or 1. Plus i took super 'cop the lot' which is the 2nd best feature other than the main one only to get £22, bit bad given its a 70 pounder. Neadless to say i was down from it. Oh well.

[hurricane]

Yeah they do have a block at yellow bars,on most reds,but it aint a hard coded block like some machines,if you just keep gambling it will eventually pass it,when you start getting to blue 7's or it's offering them on nudges,it's normally not to lon before a jp or big money is due.

Thanks .

[barcrest]

DOND depends on what one your playing as to how they go but if you really are losing £400 then you are playing it at the wrong time. For a start off I have found you are far better playing them on £1 and not 25p as even dead the lower features are worth much more like £10 off red rise 'n' fall on Mega DOND and that is offered regularly as it's so low down. You can also gauge far quicker if it's worth playing or not.

The other thing to remeber is if you missed £70 you could do your arse chasing it. I mean if you took a deal of say £20 and it shows you £70 you could end up doing your arse chasing that £70 you could have had I've seen a lot of people do it. As a rule of thumb if it's a DOND that has a cashpot for each value and more than one is at £70 you should be able to make a profit, usually if only one is almost £70 you should be able to make a nice profit.

If you are playing machines and they appear to be dead all the time you are playing on someones round and they have been in and cleaned the machine before you got there. In the west midlans there is a chinese guy with a satchel who plays them all daily. I have seen him in Walsall, Wolverhampton and Birmingham and if he's played you know not to even bother trying, I even saw him one time in leicester.

Edited by barcrest, 07 April 2011 - 09:49 AM.

[Johnny's Amusements]

Just had a few new machines put in my local arcade, one of which being 'It's Amazing' set to £70... but when i checked the percentage of it, it was set to 70%. I know percentages dont mean that much but come on... for a 70 pounder WTH!?

Percentages DO mean a lot. Machines set in the low 70s play very badly. Machines should be on an ABSOLUTE MINIMUM of 78%. If you check out the link below to my new forum, you will see how my machines are set. Do not forget that I am a PLAYER as well as an operator. I know all about shitty % payouts!

http://s4.zetaboards...usements/index/

[frig]

I miss the arcades, but thank god I don't live in the Uk anymore. I had a horrible losing streak just before I left. I lost over 2k on 2 machines in Southport, and I then got stung at heathrow airport just before I left the country on a magic 7,s that was backing.

I tried a casino recently in Lao and was totaly shocked! It was just like gambling back in the 80's where you spent all day (5-8 hours) gambling and came out £100 down and had a big headache. There was 400 real Vegas slots, but instead of plays and wins being in Dollars, everything was in Bahts (2p) so I actually had fun without getting my pants pulled down (apparently that was extra). I actually won overall after playing for 3 days, but thats not my point.

[paulMCS]

........in my experience on double dond,....get the cashpot to £50 quid and it will give it to u after u do cash or bust 4 or 5 times (50p play)....

As i made a terrible mistake on £1 a go,...the cashpot was on 70 quid and i put in 100 and it still didnt give it to me,...BARSTARD!!