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[U.D]

Programmed never to repeat on a freekin jackpot...

some games like: pink pussy, boulder dash, the big cheese, monopoly, squids in and these new wave of 10p play games coming out i have had jackpot on sooooo many times but never once or have i seen for anyone else these games repeat.

some games like haunted house i have seen repeat very very rarely....


where as some games like the mob repeat 99% of the time.

do you think theyve been made to never repeat or just once every 100000 jackpots?

:-?

[dave1de]

I agree with what you said about the mob, it always seems to repeat, same with london underground, it always repeats.

PCB and frenzy seem to repeat a bit, as do some of the old maygay machines (great escape)

Machines like shock 'n' roll never ever repeat, so I reckon they probably are fixed.

[U.D]

instead of fixing them why dont they just take the repeat chance off...
i know a couple of games that only repeat on test mode.
any thers which are guarnteed no repeat?

[hurtand165]

i really do not think any machine is fixed not to repeat at all, maybe they are close to the set percentage when you get the jp and cannot afford to repeat. or maybe they are coded not to repeat alot but to get there percentage up with other methods.

[pash]

Well on my hurricane i twice made it repeat but that was me refusing about 12 JPs by taking 99 nudges and nudging in a quid and doing the same with several IM boards and lets face it whose gonna do that in reality?

[U.D]

i know its a bit off topic, but i cant be arsed to make a thread for such a small question..

anyone know a website or whatever where i could get a guide for the nudges on partytime, i.e which ones bring in the winners...?

[hurtand165]

this thread for the poundrun party simulator had some pt info that may be of interest to you i think. http://www.poundrun....?showtopic=3500


hurtand165

[mrmystery83]

i had repeat from the £25 bellfruit monopoly twice in one month both from IM it's just about catching it at the right time i guess. The worse time for no repeat is when you force for it and end up well down even though you've put well over jacky in!! :x

[khards]

Some machines set below a cirtan percentage do not repeat but above that percentage they do, this is what the difference goes on

[davemint]

if a 25p machine doesnt repeat it will 9/10 let you back in the board shortly after with another jackpot. thats sorta a repeat.
what i have noticed anyway

[jay2]

looked this up on the gaming board site and found this.

4.9 Random event

Where a number of events occur at random, the probability of any one of those events occuring must be the same as the probability of any other event occuring.

For example, Where a machine is designed to offer a random chance of a repeat win, the probability of the repeat occuring must be the same whatever the value of the win.In particular, the probability shall not be increased to a higher value after a major win and reduced to a lower percentage for other wins.

[Bencrest]

Some machines set below a cirtan percentage do not repeat but above that percentage they do, this is what the difference goes on

Seems 100% on the button to me. I was experimenting with my Each Way Nudge, trying £500 [but in actual play, i.e doors closed, not in test] on different percentages, namely 70%, 74%, 78%, which are about the lowest and higest you will find in pubs at the moment.

On 70%, I NEVER had an IM, or even a 'true skill' offered. I did take jackpots, but they rarely repeated, and the 'Super Streak' rarely went higher than £15, although I think it may have gone for £44 once.

On 74%, it did offer 'true-skill' gambles, and seemed to offer slightly more from some features, such as 'Reel Match' [pretty common on Barcrest, spins in 2 same symbols and skill stop the last one for a win], going up to £5 when previously it had only gone as high as £3. The jackpot repeated once, although it was easier to gamble to the streak above it. That was more inclined to give between £20 and £45 than before.

On 78%, it was offering 'true-skill', and actually offered IMs. The IMs which were gambled to Super Streak were almost entirely giving £30, or were giving another IM or just a jackpot board on the board after, and that was occasionally repeating. Super Streak was commonly giving £44/45 [why the £44 all the bloody time?!], gave £60 once and £75 once. Features offered similar wins to the 74%.

OK - Not the most scientifically accurate test I ever did, and no doubt my playing methods may have varied from machine to machine, but it still makes interesting reading, and makes me want to perform something similar on the emulator - a machine like Boulderdash would be good, something '£15 Barcrest, Pub machine'.

BarcrestBenito

[marcosource]

Instead of just playing around hundreds of virtual pounds on the emus,
some people might (for research reasons) ,play strategically for some times.
Why not ?
I am willing to help.
For example,if someone gives me a machinename ,I could play the 500 Pounds on different percentages and playstyles.
I usally like to play the Force method,just to see the streaks and repeats possible.
So if nsome people would do the same thing,eventually we would find the most profitable way of playing.
For example,last night I played Red Arrow and I found it really funny,when you force it and it gives you the jackpot reeled in every go.till you win the gamble for the streak.
First I thought,oh god,5 jackpots in a row !!! Had I stupid collected all,I would have been up 75 quid,but once gambled and won,its finished,so it really wants to give only ONE jackpot,I guess.
Strange machines.
Would be nice,to make some statistics ,dont you think ?
Well,if someone has a job to do,tell me,
I will participate,
Marco

[Bencrest]

Instead of just playing around hundreds of virtual pounds on the emus,
some people might (for research reasons) ,play strategically for some times.
Why not ?
I am willing to help.
For example,if someone gives me a machinename ,I could play the 500 Pounds on different percentages and playstyles.
Marco

Echo anyone?

...where would you get the £500 from? ...where would you get the machine from??!!

Oh, you mean in the emulator?

BarcrestBenito

[marcosource]

Dear Benito,
To play 500 pounds through a real machine,that you might choose for me,
on different percentages,it seems obvious,that someone needs to change somehow the percentage after a while.
So,because I havent got hold of a key in the moment and also I am not really upto visit the UK just to play your machines ,
I actually had the idea,to do the research on an emulated version of a machine,as it is more convenient to me to stay here in the fatherland and do some work to make a living aswell,if you dont mind.
So yes,you are actually right,I was thinking about using the emulators.

8O

[robbo007]

I'm what you might call a serial fruity junkie and i think i have only had about 3 jp repeats in about 3 years on £25jp machines. Its f***in rare that a machine repeats, the only time you ever win 25+ is on super features - ie big bucks...

[Bencrest]

I'm what you might call a serial fruity junkie and i think i have only had about 3 jp repeats in about 3 years on £25jp machines. Its f***in rare that a machine repeats, the only time you ever win 25+ is on super features - ie big bucks...

About the same here. Much more common for recent machines to offer 2 JP boards in close succession....I can't think of any machine this hasn't happened on

BarcrestBenito

[frankster200]

Programmed never to repeat on a freekin jackpot...

some games like: pink pussy, boulder dash, the big cheese, monopoly, squids in and these new wave of 10p play games coming out i have had jackpot on sooooo many times but never once or have i seen for anyone else these games repeat.

SNIP

Pink Pussy, when it was on £5 and the board actually gave jackpot, i have seen quite a few repeats on it. Then they switched it to £25 (the board stayed at £5) For a while you could get the £5 and it would repeat quite often but as it has been played more and more the £5 seems impossible to get on the board.

Boulder dash would repeat about 1 in 4 when it was on £10 jackpot. Monopoly the £25 by BFM i've had the repeat twice and seen it a few times, of the Scorp4 BFMS only twice I have ever seen a repeat (LOTR) before monopoly came out, i'd say 1 in 5 for monopoly.

Squids in is also good for repeats the same as boulderdash.

Big cheese if you're talking the one by Empire, then i've had a few repeats on it. If you're talking barcrest then I have never played it.

[russlock]

I am in the process of my own experiment in my new fruity at home.

it's a £25 jackpot and seems to repeat quite regularly, so i have noted the cash in & out meters since the last jackpot and will see how much it actually takes before it gives another.

it's set at 78%, and i will try various methods whilst playing, like purposly gambling the cash prizes untill it loses or hits jackpot.

will keep you all informed.

machine is called "Reel Thunder"

if anyone wants me to try any other methods, just let me know.

[jamesb99_1999]

The only ever time I have had the jackpot drop in on a RIO GRANDE (£250 repeater), I got three repeats (total £1000), which was lucky as it was a week before I was planning on going on holiday...

But if a £250 machine can give three repeats then surely a measly £25er should give one every so often... But I can count the number of jackpot repeats I have had on pub £25ers on my big toes this last few years....