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[Guitar]

Dont forget WTC7 which also fell later the same day without being hit by a plane and the 9/11 comission completely ignored it in the final report.

Also the CIA/NSA/FBI has something like 40 security video's from local cctv of what happened at the pentagon. Most of which were confiscated mere minutes after the incident. If they wanted to shut up the group who claims no plane hit the pentagon they could release the video's or just one good one, but instead they released 5 frames of video with such bad pixelation it makes zx81 graphics look like the ultimate in clarity. And they refuse to release any more for "national security reasons".

The missing gold from the WTC vaults, where did that go?

Certain agencies were also having war games that day, including 1 exercise which mimics the attacks almost exactly, handy way of making people cooperate without knowing its for real.

Flight 93, was it shot down? was a missile fired into the ground to hide the fact that the plane didn't exist? Certainly not much evidence of a plane left at the crash site.

The two planes that hit the towers are listed as destroyed, flights 77 and 93 the planes are not listed as destroyed on the national flight stats website.

If you ask questions to anyone official they immediately go defensive and cannot offer reasonable explanations to reasonable questions.

But ignoring the day itself, look at the measures taken in the USA (mostly) and around the world since then, slowly but surely our freedoms are being restricted often doing a company a favour in the mean time (someone has to make the xray scanners, its big business).

And if you don't think any goverment would attack its own citizens to further its agenda you might want to read the "operation northwoods" document (available in pdf all over the web) and also take a good look at the "project for a new american century" documents. Then look at Hitler and the Reichstagge(spelling wrong, sorry) building and other false flag attacks.

Does it prove anything, certainly not, but it does raise questions, and if you ask those questions you are immediately labelled a paranoid conspiracy theorist.

If you take a look at the official story and then take a look at the alternative conspiracy, the answer probably lies somewhere in the middle, USA knew it was going to happen and did nothing / little to prevent it, using it as an excuse to go into countries X,Y and Z for oil and to restrict the movements of its citizens, why they are doing it, not sure, but its what Hitler did shortly before WWII so its suspicous behaviour for sure.

[Guitar]

The fact is that no amount of simulations or calculations is going to tell you what would happen in real life as this was a unique set of circumstances.

Just re-read the thread and saw this. It appears to say that computer calculations cannot mimic real life, which, given you are on an emultion site I find amusingly ironic.

[duplu]

Just re-read the thread and saw this. It appears to say that computer calculations cannot mimic real life, which, given you are on an emultion site I find amusingly ironic.

A computer program emulating the fixed actions of an electronic device is a little different to emulating the chaos of real life.

I was referring to the people saying things like "the buildings shouldn't have collapsed", "WTC 7 was demolished on purpose". I don't see how they could possibly know the buildings wouldn't collapse as we don't routinely crash fully laden airplanes into million ton buildings to see what the effects would be.

[todd1970]

Looks like a job for mythbusters then

http://dsc.discovery...tv/mythbusters/

Mmmmmmm...Kari Byron

[duplu]

It was said by the guy who designed them that they were built to withstand ''multiple'' boein planes hitting them,they would sway before moving back to their original positions,i can buy the south tower collapsing because of the angle it was struck at,as it was only a couple on meters off coming out the other side on an angle,But the north tower mmmm not buying that at all.

...and the Titanic was unsinkable.

[zoom]

I've always been one lend an ear to the various conspiracy theories if not one been always convinced but their content. I don't know if it's my older age but i increasingly find these "theories" just don't stand up to closer scrutiny.

The melting point for steel is often quoted with regard to the collapse of the twin towers, however the temperature at which steel weakens significantly lower, isn't. Their are numerous credible witnesses from the Pentagon site, pilots, workers from air traffic control etc all of whom destroy much of the more wild theories out there but whom don't appear on loose change and the like.

I have no doubt that governmets lie and cover up but "an inside job"?

Not for me ta.

[jim2311]

...and the Titanic was unsinkable.

Hold on there Duplu. The Titanic did not sink it was her sister ship the Olympic.....oops sorry, that's an altogether different conspiracy theory. Just one of the many surrounding the sinking of the Titanic.

Computer simulations are only as good as the data input. I'm sure we have all heard of the Butterfly Effect, where a small change can have serious consequences.

[nails]

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[nails]

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[Bandits]

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Thanks for sharing nails, very interesting, I personally think world goverments are capable of anything! Our own goverment let the british people eat contaminated beef for 11 years before telling us. I don't think people who have their eye's open should be branded as paranoid.

Edited by Bandits, 17 September 2011 - 12:53 AM.

[nails]

ive been giving the whole thing some thought, and although i genuinely the whole thing was staged, i cannot get my head around the very though the us government themselves orchestrated it from start to finish. Were talking a huge operation from start to finish, with collegues willing to help them. this leaves dwindling figures. Was it the Jews, Freemasons or a radical side of the government we sinply dont know about.

Ive been raised to believe that we are the good guys. the bad guys are people like the germans during wwii etc etc. Thats not to say i dont believe that our side/troops ever get it wrong.

JFK was my first eye opener. A blatant multiple shot assasination, covered up by the CIA to be a lone gunman. But this, well i dont know where to start, IF it was a sole reason to goto war, then why not bomb norad, or just the pentagon. I 100% believe the wt7 building was destroyed via block demolition - this being another part of the whole conspiracy, whoever knew about the world trade center attacks tipped off wt7 owner? or was it sheer fluke that the owner wanted to pull it anyway and the attacks was the icing on the cake.

one day, another photo or video will come out and show us what the instigators dont want you to see, proving beyond any shadow of doubt that it was not the work of a few terrorists, but the work of a huge network and collaboration of different departments and the like.

I dont know where this tread is going, maybe its come to the end of its run maybe its just starting, but i think we should all have an open mind.

[xvxvx]

I was supporting a computer system implementation in the Shetland Islands and thought I wouldn't be able to get a plane home.

Conspiracy theories are all crap. Some planes hit some buildings and those buildings unsurprisingly collapsed, there were no bombs and no cover up. Bringing in 'experts' to say that the buildings shouldn't have collapsed and they saw explosions is pointless. The fact is that no amount of simulations or calculations is going to tell you what would happen in real life as this was a unique set of circumstances.

Maybe the planes hit the building to cover up what happened .they could of been remotely flown .I have seen no records of the bodys being recovered of the terrorists ,all I have seen was what,s left of them .could of been anyone "recovered" .I do not recall any id tests or nothing on the remains for all we
Know they could of been corpses from a cemetery ..

[Guitar]

JFK Stuff

I think there were 19 hijackers involved in 9/11 but they were likely patsies ala Lee Harvey Oswald.

[mazooma]

Perhaps the media and government deliberately showed these apparent anomalies to seduce the paraniod mind of the internet geek to fuel the fire of the conspiracy therory?

[nails]

http://www.liveleak....=a6f_1316802183

this did make me laugh..

[ady]

lol at all you lot thinking 9/11 is some kind of fantasy fairy story conspiracy within the US goverment..all i can say is you watch too much sci-fi on the television. Maybe it was santa claus that crashed his sleigh into the tower you never know do you.

We all know Santa isn't real....doh!...................sorry todd I need to tell you haha 3-3

Amber lives though .......... don't it?


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