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#1 sharpy2005

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Posted 23 September 2004 - 11:45 PM

Hi! I wonder if anyone can help. What i'd like to do is buy a machine, and place it in a pub/club and make money with it. Does anyone know if this is easy to do? Any clues as to how I could go about doing this?

I have seen adverts in the back of newspapers such as the Sun, and The Mirror, where you can either buy a machine and they will place it for you, and you collect the money, or you rent it from them, and they place it and you collect the money. Either way, it sounds good, but does anyone have any real experience of doing this?

Would love to hear your views!

Thanks guys!

#2 Pgamblin

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 07:58 AM

The only words that spring to mind is "Gaming License"

Not sure on the technicalitys of what your trying to do but im pretty sure you'd need to have one of these for any machine with a jp over £5.

Someone Confirm this ?
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#3 b3rny

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 10:04 AM

I started conversations with a company that i found in the back of FHM. They were very professional although i didn't go for it in the end. The pubs that they place the machine in are licensed. I would recommend you read they back of FHM and contact them, they will send you a brochure etc.
The advantage of working with these companies is if the machine breaks down, they get an engineer on-site imediately.

Good luck let me know your progress,

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 10:34 AM

im an engineer for a fruit machine company and this is how it works.
first of all you need to be a registered company to even buy a machine to place into a premises for monetary gain.

the customs check all the time for illegal or dodgy machines.

i guy just got busted in my home town up in perth just 2 weeks ago for buying a machine of the internet and then putting it into a kebab shop.

there are dodgy companies flying about who are not registered with bacta or samoa (these are governing bodies of the fruit machine trade).

they get caught all the time and get hit with huge fines.

this is the reason why ebay has introduced this rule that if you are selling a machine online you have to have the coin mech and hopper disconnected or removed so the machine cannot be used for monetary gain.

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 10:36 AM

The only words that spring to mind is "Gaming License"


yes you need an operators license to site any type of fruit machine.

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 10:43 AM

silly question i suppose but can you rent machines from the company for home use????

or do you ahve to be a registered company..

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 10:49 AM

you can but you would have to have money to throw about if you wanted to because they range from £25-75 a week.

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 11:14 AM

Thats not too bad, if i could rent a game like a party time out for £75 for one week id do it... probly lose that on them a week anyway :)

#9 lincs leisure R us

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 11:42 AM

bazpeep is right in what he's said, u do need to be registered with B.A.C.T.A, but also if u buy or rent from a company like those in the sun,mirror, and other paper's they do normally offer an option of buying a license to which u pay them back at so much each week or month.

if u run a gaming machine without a license AND if u do get caught!!
U CAN EXPECT A FINE OF ABOUT £3,000 + BACK DUTY.

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#10 sharpy2005

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 11:18 PM

Thats really great guys, thanks for all your input on this so far.

So my best bet seems to be speak to the people in the ads in the back on FHM?

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 12:07 AM

Used to own a machine in a taxi office when I was the nightshift controller.

I rented a room from the owner at £100 per week and had a Maxpax machine in there with it, No licence for the machine as it was secure premises and I could lock the room at any time and had cctv.

I put in £100 jackpot and changed the machine every six month.

I went out with £5 in my pocket and could come home with over £350 a night.
I was constanly changing £10, and £20s for bags of change.

I went on holiday and when I came back I could not carry the money out as it was to heavy and filled black bags.

Taxi drivers on the night shift have boring nights during the week and bags loads of change.

My saying was This is due to pay.


One night I came in to work I sellotaped 2 x £50 notes to the office window and said "that is due to pay" and I need the person to give me the £1 coins back so I can refill it before I go on holiday.

I had a Q of drivers playing from 2am till 8 am the next morning all trying to win the £100 jackpot.
£480 I changed that night plus got all their change, it was great.

Then someone grassed me off.

I was working one night and a driver never shut the door behind him and in comes the police, they said you know you need a licence for that machine, (I had the back off it) and quick as a flash I said that it does not work and I only sort them in my spare time, I said look and put a £1 in and said play it, he did and got a cherry 40p which did not pay out as the back was off, he said I was in here last week and put a pound in that machine as well.

As soon as they left I switched it off removed the cable and turned it round to the wall. They came back an hour later and said their chief constable had told them to do me with something, but as it was obvious that the machine was not being used they would not do me, they advised me that I needed a licence to even sort them.

I left the taxis after that as I could not go back to working for £3 an hour.

4 years of brill it was, bought myself new car holidays everything all from one bandit.

#12 lincs leisure R us

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 12:42 AM

pavmas that was an interesting story but its a good job the gaming board of inspectors didn't return with the police to the taxi office where the machine was sited. if they had then u would of really been in deep shit.
you are very lucky that it didn't go any further.

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