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[piesthecat]

File Name: Red Hot Knights 1024
File Submitter: piesthecat
File Submitted: 24 Sep 2012
File Category: MPU 5

Here is barcrests - Red Hot Knights, Its laptop friendly and as this is one of my first layouts it will look rather shocking....

All shortcuts the same.


BIG thank you to ploggy for the reels and thanks to my testers for pointing out a few issues.

Click here to download this file

[ross]

and there was me thinking you would try and lamp it yourself

but instead just re sized my layout

nice

on a side note you may want to fire your "testers"

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Edited by ross, 24 September 2012 - 02:44 PM.

[cja272]

Thank you

[POSH4EVA]

Thanks Pies

[gemini17]

Crackin stuff and real love the slot too-classic Barcrest with all the groovy tunes.

Many thanks

Jay

[vectra666]

and there was me thinking you would try and lamp it yourself

but instead just re sized my layout

nice

on a side note you may want to fire your "testers"

thanks pies-- i failed to notice this during testing unless i moved them correctly in my edition, also how come there,s lines over some of the lamps. And i hope people don,t just resize the layouts and say its their own work, at least my releases are started from the original artwork cleaned, lit, and dx,ed.

[ross]

to be fair this layout is ridiculous and should not have been released full stop not only because he ripped my layout off
but because 0 effort has been put in to making it

just take a look at how shagged the images are none of them are in line at all (or the right size for that matter)


and all he has done is resize the images with in MFME hence the black lines on most of the images
and slapped his name on my layout why he picked that one to rip of is beyond me the lamping is shite

Edited by ross, 24 September 2012 - 07:10 PM.

[Daryl]

We have play testers who are there to report any faults with the layouts, not so as they can be the first people to play any new release first.

This has become a very frequent event on some occasions. Years ago it was a privilege to play test a new layout, not to get the release first, but to point out to the creator any faults, no matter how minute and detailed (after all, that is what the play tester was created for), report to them, so as the layout could be updated as good as it could be.

Then we have these classic 'resize' creators who get someone else's layout, adjust it in MFME and then release as their own work... a sad day for FME if that is the case here on both counts.

I haven't downloaded or commented on it until now... and I hope Pies has some reassuring answers to Ross' allegations. I am never happy when FME is let down by cheats and people who can't be bothered to play test a fruit machine properly.

If you don't know how the fruit machine plays, why play test it? You don't know what you are looking for if there are any faults with it. I only ever play tested machines I knew and had played regularly before, but now it just seems to be the norm to want to have the layout first, before anyone else can in the Release section... there really isn't any passion in FME anymore, and this layout, both in creativity and failings, proves it!

As I say, a bad day for FME

[vectra666]

yes i do playtest the layouts given (if they fit on lappy) and i give extensive feedback if needed i mentioned to him about the black lines the lamps out of line etc but in the end it,s upto the creator to put these problems right prior to release, which to be trueful i may have forgot to do myself on my3+ layouts ive created

[ross]

just so theres no confusion im not having a go at who ever play tested the layout as its likely pies just uploaded the layout without fixing anything as im sure the errors ive pointed out were seen within 0.1 seconds of the layout being launched

but yes its that time were fme is dead and people look for a easy green name

[samson81]

just so theres no confusion im not having a go at who ever play tested the layout as its likely pies just uploaded the layout without fixing anything as im sure the errors ive pointed out were seen within 0.1 seconds of the layout being launched

but yes its that time were fme is dead and people look for a easy green name

I have had a look at this and have to agree that it does look terrible from the moment you load it up.

And yes it does look like it has just been resized and had a new name added.

Such a shame when honest people create these layouts from scratch for someone to make a small edit then slap their name on it and not even give credit to the original person that created and uploaded the file.

[Bencrest]

Pretty disgraceful behaviour, but in some ways it is kinda funny... I mean it's such a crap imitation... really REALLY badly made, I very nearly wet myself laughing when I dragged the side of the window to see if the lamps were jumping

Trust me Ross, no one will think any less of you as a designer just because this idiot has completely butchered a layout of yours. Could be worse... he could have put 'THANKS TO ROSS FOR HIS HELP WITH ART' or something similar

I guess he has several options now, apologise for making a hash of it, and try something else (ideally from scratch), or to tell everyone to eff-off

On a similar note - I do think we need to have a reality check on the quality of layouts on here. Far too often I've (as a lurker) seen a sub-standard layout given ridiculous praise. In this instance, even posting 'thanks!' or similar is too much. People need to be willing to give (and receive) criticism, otherwise we are diluting the quality of work associated to the site. My layouts are crap in comparison to some work, but conversely some of the work I did in 2005 is better than what is being produced today, and that's a backward step.

In this instance, I can't help but feel that the layout should be removed, and someone else have a shot at a 1024 from scratch. There's nothing wrong with asking a designer for their permission to use lamp numbers, reel positions, e.t.c. (because it can save a lot of time!), but to just resize the artwork is ridiculous.

I honestly reckon it took MORE time to resize the lamps and make this appalling layout, than it would've done to resize the base art (WITH PERMISSION) and lamp from scratch. Again, if you don't get permission, get the flyer and clean it yourself, or ask for help - I'm sure people with Photoshop or similar experience will clean a flyer if required

Edited by Bencrest, 24 September 2012 - 08:22 PM.

[ross]

holy shit nice to see you around these parts again

all it would have taken is a pm and i would have sent the flyer scan off to him and probs would have had a 1 to 1 over msn too if he needed it (after all thats how i started out with apollo 9 with ady guiding me through my first layout)

so my offer is who ever wants to do a 1024 (and wiling to put effort in) ill glady send them the flyer

Edited by ross, 24 September 2012 - 08:31 PM.

[vectra666]

i looked at my version from pies and i reduced the lamps height and width thats sorted the "jumping" out.
i,d give magic carpet a go if i can

Edited by vectra666, 24 September 2012 - 08:50 PM.

[Bencrest]

Maybe the layout is going cold turkey and thats why the lamps are dancing about like a slappers knik nacs Pies sort ya head out you layout rouge.

It really is so bad it's funny. I reckon he's got some kind of supercharged massage chair

[Daryl]

Ok Bencrest. It's crap. OK.

Oh and Vecs is damn good playtester!!!!!!

But to be honest ricardo mate - it is CRAP - and should be mentioned again, and again too.

we are, mainly an FME site - we rely on people creating layouts, whether reconditioned or fresh, to keep us going... but when one is released so shabbily as this - and worse still - stolen from someone else - and still made a complete bollock of it - then yes, we should keep going on about it.

It is is what I have done the last 11 years... and hopefully I will for next 11 years too - as long as layouts like it keep getting released!

[curlywill]

jeeez i cant tell one end of a layout from the other but even i can tell this is shoddy