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[No1Stoney]

£1000? Crikey, took me a week to lose that much

Sorry to hear about that, but glad you've not been in an arcade for a year. They can be so inviting with their free coffee as well

Free coffee?! I wish we got free coffee when I was there, sometimes I could have done with some, maybe it would have knocked some sense into me.. I supopse these are the over 18s arcades?

-No1Stoney

[Bencrest]

Yeah, normally chain ones. Last one I used was a Quicksilver, never been made to feel more welcome in my life - mind you, still lost £120, and no amount of free coffee will make up for that

[robbo007]

Referring to the guy who lost a grand in a day, I was just wandering how this was possible? i've never heard of a quicksilver arcade (is it 250quid jp's?? / 50p per play?). The most i've lost in a day in 100quid, and that was on £25 play machines (all amusement, not like bar-x, partytime, goalen game.... ), and I had some shoody luck and every machine i played seemed bone dry

[ady]

quicksilver's are all over the place just like Noble's.....And yeah I once did a Monkey in a few hours, so a grand in a day.....Yeah well easy with AWP's!!!!!.

[tracey2]

Ive done a oner in a bar-x ten before in less than 30 mins (no nudge no win) before so a grand in a day should be a piece of piss. I must admit it is a sick feeling you get when you've been robbed blind like that, especialy when you realise what you could of bought with the money instead. If only...........

[Bencrest]

I've got quite an interesting type of gambling going on at the moment, it is called eBay - buying DVDs new from cheap suppliers, and selling on eBay for a profit

I did once lose £60 in a Party Time, top board only gave £2 and that happened twice, took about 15 mins on 30p / £25. That means that if it continued to play that badly, I could have lost £240 in an hour

[chez]

its not a good thing i know, but it is entirely possible to do £150 - £200 in 20 mins on a bar x 7/10 etc if you keep it on auto play.

then again they can streak like they did yest and drop 4 7's within 6 credits. nice.

[kensplace2]

ebay rocks, although the fees are worse than most fruity odds....

[kensplace2]

Just came across this thread again after a few beers, so apologies if my typing slurs a bit...

It wasnt a arcade, it was a pub..

It wasnt suicide, but it was dangerously close to pushing me there.

I was ripped off by someone called darron/dazza whatever who seemed to be well known, and well into fruities.... Emptiers ect. Showed me a cash attack one, that made me realise that they are not random..................

Ripped me of lots, wasnt just me, also did the barstaff....

Dangerous person, not violent, but a scumbag non the less, praying on people at their lowest point of depression.....


I often wonder if this person is the same one that people keep bangin on about on forums....

[Bencrest]

Have to admit, I didn't quite get that one...

Did you mean that he told you there was an emptier but you lost all of your money trying to get it, or that he was ripping the machine so much that you guys never got on the board...or something else?

The Cash Attack emptier [hell, they've all been chipped now anyway], was the same as SuperCharged I take it? Basically just press collect when on the board, but you have no nudge win, and then press the 2 nudge buttons together?

[pash]

I think about £400 in about 3 hours is my worst to date but if you add up all the times it just starts to get scary.

I moved up to glasgow to live with my current mrs with about a grands worth of debt and in less than 2 and a half years i was over 30k in the red (not all to do with fruities but a fair whack of it)

Thankfully there are some funky scottish laws which are kind of an informal bankruptcy so in a couple of years ill be in the clear again although you would think that would stop me playing wouldnt you......

Lost 180 a couple of weeks ago but now i finally have had the sense to give the mrs my bank card i never did it before as she is crap with money but we have managed to work it where i am still in charge of the cash it just never leaves the house with me so hopefully this will finally keep me sorted i still cant keep away from them though i still go in and throw away the five or ten quid that i have on me which is even more frustrating when you dont get on the board but this way i hope i will finally beat "gamblor" the beast that has enslaved us all.........................

[robbo007]

I don't quite seem to understand what you're saying Ken. Is the guy watching you lose your money, then play the machine afterwards and, by using emptiers, win back your money?

[kensplace2]

It was a few years ago, I had severe depression due to workplace problems,
I would go into a quite pub on the way home and have a pint, and play on the machines a bit.

I was introduced (by the flaming pub manager!) to this lad, who befriended me, which was easy to do the state I was in at the time....

He showed me a cash attack trick (not the one mentioned previously, but to do with horseshoes, and getting the jackpot) which made me interested even more, as being a programmer at the tiime for a living I had always suspectd the machines were not random.

Basically, he got loads of money of me, for a fruit machine that never turned up, and other things. He tried all sorts, even saying he could cheat the cash dispensers.... He picked me as I was out of it, and had lots of cash...

Did a runner though, with my money, cheated barstaff out of change from notes etc, he can confuse people easily, has the gift of the con artist gab.

Being in the state I was, I got fleeced......

To me anyone that will listen to your problems, sympathise, then rob you blind is dangerous..

[Bencrest]

I still don't get bits of that - 'for a fruit machine that never turned up' - do you mean you paid him for a fruit machine and he never supplied it? Were you paying him for information on how to empty dispensing machines?

Also, with Cash Attack, I was thinking of a more recent version

On the one you mention, all the horseshoes do is :

1) Get a line of horseshoes on the matrix for a nudge [is that right?]
2) Get a full matrix for the Jackpot.

Getting a full matrix has very little to do with skill, and AFAIK there was no emptier for that machine.

Sorry to hear about all that happened to you, it's a shame that this isn't the first case of fraud of heard of involving t**ts ripping off gamblers [Recently a fake 'Irish Lottery' thing was going around the pubs, pay a quid to join the syndicate thing...but they made off with a LOT of cash and never bought one ticket.]

[kensplace2]

Yeah, paid him for a machine that never turned up..... Plus clothing, lent cash to him , all sorts. Not the type of thing I would normally do, and pre-pression I would have ran a mile, but at that point, I could have been scammed by anyone....



The cash dispenser thing, made me very suspicious, but it was a bit late by then, and also, I was so out of it, I could not think straight. But at least I didnt do what he wanted and give him my card and pin (he claimed he could withdraw the money twice, but it would only show up once on balance... Never paid him for anythign like that, he waw after noney for more tricks, but didnt give him any, just foolishly paid for other things I never saw.)



The cash attack one was just a way of getting the jackpot, not even sure if it is an emptier, as you had ot put 30 quid in sometimes, but when I did remember how to do it (half the time I was out of it) it did seem to work well... It was about looking for certain symbols, then using nudges etc.

[Bencrest]

Basically on a £15 JP machine you were forcing it until it gave the JP from a full matrix? No, thats not an emptier, and if it doesn't repeat, you've left a JP in there for the next punter [probably the bloke who told you that 'trick'].

[stevedude2]

You're thinking Place Your Bets or Top Tenner, Ben. The Cash Attack trick was a quick and easy way of nicking a jackpot or two, but they tightened up afterwards, similar to Dosh and Pecks etc. It was an old MPU4 game (same as Up Up and Away). You nudged numbers onto the line for more nudges (like Pot Of Gold), horseshoes gave a bonus which could get you more nudges. Keep nudging the reels round and round in the right way and an easy jackpot was yours. Or you could play the board (similar to Hi-Jinx) and get it the normal way which was more expensive. It was a nice way to make a few extra quid, but wasn't an emptier. The feature music was the best... 8-)

As for the conning b@astard you mention kensplace, I hope he gets his arms and legs broken some time soon. Heartless pr*ck...

[Bencrest]

Cheers Steve,

I knew what the machine looked like, and that it was like Up Up & Away, but I should have checked a flyer or something to remember bits like how to get nudges

Anyway, I am pretty confident that [as you will no doubt be able to see if you emulate it], the machine determines the layout of the reels very carefully, and it will of course only offer the JP when it is possible to pay it. It would amaze me if after about a £200 session though it, no matter how well you manipulate the reels, you could play the percentage over what it is set to. As such, it won't really give you any advantage, unless the machine is ready to play, and someone has lost enough in it for the machine to offer such situations.

If it leaves you in the position where you can manipulate the reels to get the JP, who is to say it wouldn't have given the JP from the board?