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[matrix2021]

Hi all,

 

A quick question which has always caused a discussion or two between friends/staff/neighbouring players.

 

On multistake machines e.g. Money Mad Martians, does the machine play on the same percentage over the three different stakes, or separate percentages for each stake?

 

I've personally always argued they played off the same percentage, that just because someone won £140 on £1 stake and a few presses later another £70 was won on 25p stake is merely a coincidence - but I've had one 'engineer' argue otherwise.  Any definitive answer?

 

Cheers.

[nails]

its a higher percentage payback the higher the stake. the fact it paid a 3rd jackpot on 25p would suggest it was ready to pay a treble anyway.

[spa]

Each stake appears to be independent on the games I play with odd times each stake is good.

[chasnbons]

If you look on the help screen, it clearly states the %age for each stake, or at least it does on all the machines I play on, for example....

 

25p = 86%

50p = 88%

£1 = 90%

£2 = 92%

 

I also consider this to be correct, and I agree with spa, that when playing a machine myself, I've had big wins inc a jackpot on 50p stake, and then because I've been 'up', tried my luck on a higher stake and got another big win.

 

IMHO I'd say that when a machine does such a run of wins on different stakes, it quite simple boils down to the fact that I've hit it at just the right time, when each stake was ready to pay.

 

A few weeks ago a woman walked up to a sit down unit, and put a fiver in Money Mad Martians on a quid stake, pressed start, got the planets and hit the Gold for 500 quid.  She collected and walked away.  Ten minutes later an old girl sat down at the same machine (no-one had been near it in between) She put 2 quid in, on 25p stake, and did the same thing as the previous woman, Gold planet again, which was up to 150 odd quid!

[matrix2021]

So they're independent of each other like Spa said, or it's just differing percentages dependant on stake but running off one overall percentage?

[Idontknow]

From info I have been told and read in various gaming rules / criteria:-

 

On those types of games each stake is separate % and that each stake is indeed also separate % wise. If they were not separate it would be possible for the say £1 stake to pay nothing if they was all connected.

 

Eg if people played it on 25p and it paid its due % and then people played on £1 and won nothing then people played again on 25p and won because it was ready to pay again, I cant see that being legal and I believe this is why each game that has a separate stake in this way runs each independently. This would also explain when it pays out on diff stake after one stake has paid out, likewise 2 stakes could eat at the same time if neither stake was ready.

 

Your effectively playing 3-4 games in one etc

 

This type of game also would display the min % as the same % as the min stake due to that would be the min average no matter what combination of stakes were played.

[d0uga1]

ive had this argument with staff at my local casino (not sure if it applies to different category machines) but I stated that the machine games play the exact same percentage on all stakes but offer higher value winlines regarding what stake you play where the staff seem to differ to my opinion (I must say I proved my case to the casino manager when I showed him the game rules page on the lobster mainia and myan ritches games where it actually had in writing that each game pays at 90% and values increase dependant on the stake the player plays). I would presume in my opinion that its the same with the £70/£100/£500 machines same stake higher values, but Im proberly wrong as i don't play machines anymore unless in a casino and had a win at poker

[spa]

Only going by what I play but if someone played £500 through on 50p and walked. If I then put it to £1 it would still be dead on £1.