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[altharic]

It's all about evolving the quality of DX for the better. There won't always be the oldskool DX'ers around, if people don't learn then layout creation will simply devolve.

J

Exactly so how are folks supposed to learn if they cant use others work as a base.

[Deathclaw]

 

So a warning to all our members (and Moderators here too)...

 

...if you've a stash of porn you've been storing here and sharing with your Fruit Emu 'buddies' - our site owner won't ever need PornTube ever again!    lol

 

Hang on a minute. I get warnings and am shoved in a moderation queue yet you can post the name of a porn site here which is totally and utterly inappropriate.

 

And Stan Douche can post all of the dirty shit he likes too?

 

Don't you see it Daryl?

 

Of course not. This isn't about me saying dirty words because you all f*****g do it. There's no swear filters in place.

 

We all know what this is about.

[Deathclaw]

 

First unofficial warning was done by PM and was completely ignored.

 

Warnings were not directly related to DC's grievances with other members, they were related to how he went about dealing with those grievances.

 

As far as I can see the only other person to "join in" other than mods and DC himself has so far been you.

 

I'm not surprised I f*****g ignored you. You were treating me like a f*****g child. Acknowledge this warning or else you can't post any more hahaha etc.

 

Why don't you just f*** off and leave me alone, given that I'm actually putting in around six hours of graft per day to actually supply this FME site with some actual f*****g FME.

 

I said right from my first post (when I came out as me) that I did not want to argue nor fight with any one. Yet, I've been attacked left right and centre over shit that happened years ago from those who can't let it go.

 

That's not my problem, THAT is your problem, not me.

 

And that has always been the problem. Watch out what you say ! you might piss off an admin or a moderator. Well f*** the admins and the moderators. Last time I checked they did not make layouts.

[Deathclaw]

It's all about evolving the quality of DX for the better. There won't always be the oldskool DX'ers around, if people don't learn then layout creation will simply devolve.

J

 

That's exactly what's been happening for years. Piss off all the layout designers, make sure the emu will never get an update and that's exactly what you're left with.

 

And that's pretty much exactly what this site is. And the owners and mods all moan about it but when a real layout designer shows up they all change that because of who that layout designer is.

 

LOL. Joke site mate. That's what this is. Why I even bothered posting here expecting some serious FME with the shower of shit for moderators here is beyond me.

[fuzion]

Like I've said in the past I'm not too bothered about my artwork and can often supply and did post some very hi res artwork on dadsfme site. Just recently someone converted my Great Escape layout and took a shortcut and the layout looks terrible in amber. All I ask is learn to create the lamps I'm pretty sure most people would happily hand over the main off image, it's when people are also using the on image as well, this is not learning anything whatsoever and said layout creator will not advance a decent skill base. I created a pretty shit DX, Nudge Shuffle, it was my first ever release and to be honest it's actually not that bad if you compare to some more recent efforts, this was in 2002.

J
Simply converting a layout from mfme to amber is not learning anything if you have ripped all on lamps from mfme. It's that simple.

J

[Deathclaw]

This is how i learned.

 

 

 

And you learned well. And I seem to recall giving you tips too.

 

I apologise profusely if you think I have referred to you in any of my posts. You're a good designer and have made some epic layouts.

 

I learned from a guy that buggered off years ago. Mike. And since then I've continued to learn.

 

And not once in all of that time did I take something that wasn't mine and try to pass it off as mine.

 

I've made some truly, utterly horrendous layouts but at least they were mine.

[fuzion]

Apart from how to use the built in amber convert tool.

I'm not blaming anyone or making out I'm better but I take bride in my creations and there is nothing wrong with that outlook. To progress to a good level takes many months of hard graft. I learnt the hard way, many hours creating new techniques and ways to make the machine look better, sure I work in graphics on a daily basis, probably why I really enjoy this creative outlet.

J

[fuzion]

This is how i learned.

Exactly. There is a lot to be said about getting your hands dirty.

J

[fuzion]

You have dad. Again, I keep spouting this but I have no problem with anyone using my off images to create a DX, if you can make it any better (highly doubtful though) then be my guest. All I ask is that you don't re-release any of my layouts in a shabby manner it makes me look shit.

But anyway time to get my coat. Be seeing you.

J

[Johnnyafc]

What about all the work that goes in to a 'classic' layout few DXers can be bothered to do all the boring work working out lamps making everything Lithograph ;-)

[fuzion]

There are many top quality DXers that take a lot of pride with their work. This just seems normal to me.

J

[fuzion]

What about all the work that goes in to a 'classic' layout few DXers can be bothered to do all the boring work working out lamps making everything Lithograph ;-)

Indeed I take my hat off to those guys, without them many DX's would take a lot longer. I've only ever worked on about 5 layouts from scratch. I bet these guys would be pissed off if people simply rehashed their classic layout without adding anything new or making it worse.

J

[fuzion]

I guess you could release a classic in amber, you need to prepare the layout in photoshop though... Or dare I say, rip a classics from mfme using screen grabs.

J
A bit pointless though. Unless there really is no available artwork.

J

[Deathclaw]

See this is what I find stupid, right. We're all in agreement yet we're not 'cos I'm here.

 

How stupid is that.

 

And JAFC - I have huge respect for people who make anything for FME. I turned many of your late MPU5 classics into DXes and made sure to say thanks.

 

Anything that they created and then gave away for free. But the 'they created' part is the key here.

[altharic]

See this is what I find stupid, right. We're all in agreement yet we're not 'cos I'm here.
 
How stupid is that.
 
And JAFC - I have huge respect for people who make anything for FME. I turned many of your late MPU5 classics into DXes and made sure to say thanks.
 
Anything that they created and then gave away for free. But the 'they created' part is the key here.

By your own 'rules' you should have made your own classic.

[fuzion]

I understand where your coming from mate and I agree with you regarding artwork. I enjoy doing it and I find working on DX graphics very therapeutic and sometimes spend months creating and enhancing artwork, so if someone is going to use my artwork, and please feel free to use my base art no problems whatsover, but please make an effort to make it look either just as good or better still, evolve it and make it something better.

J

[Deathclaw]

By your own 'rules' you should have made your own classic.

 

By my own rules?

 

I said, and I reiterate, I do not want people stealing my artwork. For the most part? well every single S4 layout I ever made was totally done by me, from the working out the lamps (which is piss easy on a S4 and MPU5 machine, not that you'd know that of course).

 

If I give permission? then you can do what you like with my artwork. Heck, maybe even print it out and stick it up your arse, if that is what you're into.

 

However, let me make it clear that whenever I used somebody else's classic layout to make a DX (usually JAFCs because he truly understands how to make them properly and thoroughly) I always gained express permission. It's called common manners, something you were never very good at.

 

As I said, and will again make clear, if I give my permission then feel free to do what you f*****g like with whatever I have given away for free to this scene. That includes, and is not limited to, pretty much everything. I've never, EVER been a tight ass when it came to sharing things.

 

However, I don't like people stealing what I spent many, MANY hours doing and then claiming it as their own.

 

And, by the nature of human society that is perfectly fair and understandable to many, sadly excluding you who seems to think he can come on here slagging me off and giving my permission to do whatever people like with my work.

 

It's very noble of you, like, but you know? you can go f*** yourself if that's your attitude.

 

All I have seen from you since I f*****g came back is cynical bollocks, Alth. The same cynical political bollocks that causes people to become annoyed and unhappy. Same old, same old.