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#1 robinhood75

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 04:10 AM

I was told the other day that I was not aloud to scratch a scratchcard inside a petrol station because they didn't have a gambling license. Is this true or not because I was pissed at being barked at by a woman who was quite rude. I took it over to the lotto stand to scratch it and she barked at me saying I have to leave the shop to scratch the card.

I said yeahright and proceded to scratch it and then she said if I carried on I would get barred, Hahahaha.

I did mention it on the lottos facebook page and there response was .........

 

"The National Lottery Hi James, you are completely free to scratch your Scratchcard in whatever location you so please (although we wouldn't advise doing it while operating heavy machinery or say driving..) Please let me know which store you experienced this in, where and we will launch an investigation. ^Will"

I wouldn't have minded but it was the way she barked at me when I was on the lotto stand scratching my card.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 04:14 AM

Oh just had an email response from there too which was in my email. Dam email is not working on my android keeps saying no connection, Anyways this was there response,

Dear Mr TEMPLEOFTREAUSRE

Thank you for your email dated 18 May 2014 regarding National Lottery Scratchcards.

I can confirm there are no laws as to where a Scratchcard can be scratched however players must be aged 16 or over.

If you have any further queries, please do contact us.

Yours sincerely

Lesley Cotter
National Lottery Customer Care Team


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 06:53 AM

Getting banned from a petrol station.

 

Nice. That's a high five from me :)


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 07:39 AM

I think there should be tougher laws regarding these Paper fobt's lol. I mean a 16yr Old can't go into a bookies and play roulette at £10 a spin or play in local shitsilver's or wetherspoons on the £100jp's but can scratch within seconds spending upto a tenner a pop. Also they've stopped takeaways from having fruit machines yet these things are everywhere mostly where you wouldn't expect gambling to take place. Also these leccy fags firstly designed at stopping smoking now they're fruit flavoured etc to get more young people hooked on fags completely the opposite of what they were designed for. Maybe the fag companies are losing revenue so need to get more hooked on these just like the sctatchcards, no ones gambling on Bingo or slots need more gaming tax so let's get more addicted to sctatchcards, That's soft gambling so they say!

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 07:42 AM

I think you should have to produce proof you work to gamble, local shop here is crammed full of scrotes buying up to 20 cards on 'pay day' once the giro has been cashed.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 08:27 AM

the only thing I will add is the fact if you allow customers to scratch in store usually when they lose they just leave the ticket for some one else to bin it and the silver scratching's get all over the place



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 08:43 AM

the only thing I will add is the fact if you allow customers to scratch in store usually when they lose they just leave the ticket for some one else to bin it and the silver scratching's get all over the place


Plus in the example above he was in the way if someone wanted to play the lottery.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 09:00 AM

Also these leccy fags firstly designed at stopping smoking now they're fruit flavoured etc to get more young people hooked on fags completely the opposite of what they were designed for. Maybe the fag companies are losing revenue so need to get more hooked on these


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 09:22 AM

I think the electric ones should be regulated as tobacco products as its circumventing the smoking ban.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 10:14 AM

 Also these leccy fags firstly designed at stopping smoking now they're fruit flavoured etc to get more young people hooked on fags completely the opposite of what they were designed for.

 

They were never, ever designed to get people to stop smoking, so I have no idea where you get that information from. I've been vaping since it first became common in the UK, in 2008. They are designed to allow people who wish to 'use nicotine', and who want to simulate smoking, to do so in a cleaner way than burning tobacco. If I wanted to quit I'd go cold-turkey, or go down the NHS NRT route, but I don't so I'd rather vape than smoke cigarettes.

 

As for fruit flavours - they've been around since day zero. My first flavours I bought back in 2008 were chocolate, cola, strawberry, watermelon, and a tobacco flavour (which went in the bin as it was awful).The fact is that it's bloody tricky to make a flavour which actually tastes of cigarette smoke - many of them are awful. The fruit flavours, however, are bang on. I make my own liquids, typically menthol / cherry menthol, but also have some banana cake, plain black cherry, and plain strawberry in at the moment. 

 

 

Anyway, that's all off topic. I just wanted to correct you on your assumption that e-cigs are medical devices. They never have been, and I'm not sure they ever will be.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 10:44 AM

I think the electric ones should be regulated as tobacco products as its circumventing the smoking ban.


It's not, because no smoke is produced. The smoking ban specifically forbids the burning of tobacco, it does not cover the vaporisation of nicotine.
The law might yet change on this however, as it's been suggested that electronic cigarettes are leading to a "normalisation" of smoking - specifically indoors.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 10:52 AM

It's not, because no smoke is produced. The smoking ban specifically forbids the burning of tobacco, it does not cover the vaporisation of nicotine.
The law might yet change on this however, as it's been suggested that electronic cigarettes are leading to a "normalisation" of smoking - specifically indoors.


Exactly my point, its still smoking rather like separating out eating a cannabis cake and smoking it end of the day you are still taking the same drug.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:45 PM

Exactly my point, its still smoking rather like separating out eating a cannabis cake and smoking it end of the day you are still taking the same drug.


Although I can see your point, the law is very specific on wording and detail, and at the moment the existing statute leaves no room for argument in favour of banning vaping.
In theory using the same argument you would have to ban the consumption of snuff in public places - in fact the argument for banning snuff could be viewed as stronger on the basis that it's essentially powdered tobacco, rather than a tobacco extract.

It's an interesting subject and I think a thread split will be necessary soon, as the subject creep has probably gone too far now!
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Posted 24 May 2014 - 04:54 PM

in fact the argument for banning snuff could be viewed as stronger on the basis that it's essentially powdered tobacco, rather than a tobacco extract.

It's an interesting subject and I think a thread split will be necessary soon, as the subject creep has probably gone too far now!

 

Something I hadn't considered, very valid point there!



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:40 PM

Many establishments also bar e-cigs around Thames Valley and London. Can't be long before action is taken at government level - once something is popular in London it soon becomes legislation...



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Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:36 AM

Electronic scratch cards....................there's the solution :) 



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Posted 25 May 2014 - 01:10 PM

Yes the silver scratchings are a little annoying but still there are 2 shelves on the lotto stand so there was plenty of room. But why would you need Licence to play a scratchcard inside a store. So are you telling me none of you have ever scratched one inside the store you bought it from? On the issue of fags e cigs etc they should be banned but not 8n your own home. Why should we have to breath in your shit filled smoke.
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Posted 25 May 2014 - 01:21 PM

I think the point of the e-cig smoke is that it is NOT filled full of shit.  Although Nicotine is poisonous it's about as bad for you as caffiene*  

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 01:28 PM

Nicotine is a deadly poison, chain smoke 10 off each other and see how ill you feel afterwards if you don't believe me.

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

Nicotine is a deadly poison, chain smoke 10 off each other and see how ill you feel afterwards if you don't believe me.

 

What should I do with the other 10?


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