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[stanmarsh14]

Sorry but I feel no better about things after reading your reply.

 

Obviously 'something' has gone on 'somewhere' for all this to have got to the place it has.

 

I notice that there was no response regarding another 'rules' page, so I take it there is only the one page, which doesn't make any mention of rules regarding pm's, and certainly has no mention of it being a sanctionable or bannable offence.

 

I personally have never had a problem with disclosing certain content sent to me via a 'personal message' if it is info which I think people should be aware of, not to shit stir in any way, but to warn people if they maybe taking a risk regarding dealing with someone, or if  stops someone from getting ripped off etc etc.  In fact such info has been passed on to certain staff members here, by me, before they ever became staff members, and not once from anyone who has received any info, has anyone said that they wouldn't read it and that I shouldn't have sent it to them.

 

They are usually grateful at being warned, a prime example of this, was the fiasco with the guy who ripped jamespelhamjr off (I can't be arsed listing all his usernames, but you know who I mean), both here and over at the Mecca, people were grateful at being warned about him.

 

After all, if someone irl warned you in confidence, that some bloke was, let's say a convicted rapist, and you found out that your sister was oblivious to this fact, and she was planning on marrying him, don't tell me that no matter how much you'd been sworn to secrecy, you wouldn't tell her about him.

 

I realise that this analogy is a bit extreme, but you surely get where I'm coming from, sometimes people have the right to know what they are dealing with, no matter how much of a confidence it breaks.

 

Sorry for not being here at your every beck and call Phil, but after being stuck in the middle of Nottingham since 8am and after getting back to base just after 6pm and not having much to eat all day, forgive me for taking time out to grab a coffee and a bite to eat!

As for this open season on PM's which you seam to be angling about, whilst I am certanaly with you having a common sense idea / approach with respect to PM's like to preventing fraud etc, what will NEVER happen though, is your "Tabloid Newspaper" approach to open access to ALL PM's, as it's a matter of privacy, and no good internet forum you will find out there, would ever advocate or entertain such an idea!!!

As for rules in general, Alex, myself, and the rest of the staff hoped that members could be trusted enough to use some common sense as like it's expected at the Mecca without any of the staff having to ram the rule book down their throats, but way things are going, again like Pete_W has been forced to do over at the Mecca, we maybe left with no other choice, but to start removing persons who seam to have a one track mind, as to cause disruption on the forums.

[chasnbons]

 

Sorry for not being here at your every beck and call Phil, but after being stuck in the middle of Nottingham since 8am and after getting back to base just after 6pm and not having much to eat all day, forgive me for taking time out to grab a coffee and a bite to eat!

 

You had time to reply to part of my post, so I presumed you weren't replying to the rest.

As for this open season on PM's which you seam to be angling about, whilst I am certanaly with you having a common sense idea / approach with respect to PM's like to preventing fraud etc, what will NEVER happen though, is your "Tabloid Newspaper" approach to open access to ALL PM's, as it's a matter of privacy, and no good internet forum you will find out there, would ever advocate or entertain such an idea!!!

 

I'm in no way advocating any sort of open season, and I'll thank you not to twist what I'm saying, I stated quite clearly that it was MY PERSONAL view only, NOT that it should be anyone elses. Oh and when I posted warning people in open forum, regrding a certain member and what they had done and said to me in pm's, both here and at the Mecca, no-one, not a single solitary person complained, yet loads commended me for 'outing' (for want of a better word) him.

As for rules in general, Alex, myself, and the rest of the staff hoped that members could be trusted enough to use some common sense as like it's expected at the Mecca without any of the staff having to ram the rule book down their throats, but way things are going, again like Pete_W has been forced to do over at the Mecca, we maybe left with no other choice, but to start removing persons who seam to have a one track mind, as to cause disruption on the forums.

 

You seem to be doing exactly that though just lately (ramming the rule book down peoples throats), even it seems, making some up and threatening people with removal, for simply having differing opinions to yourself.  How can you expect people to use common sense, when you are acting like you are?  I have no wish to purposly disrupt any forums, like you are intimating along with your not so veiled threat, but what I do wish, is to be able to have a polite discussion or debate (please note that I haven't been rude or offensive during any this fiasco) without fear of being banned for having a view that differs from yours, or anyone elses.

 

If this is not the case on here any more and all are expected to act like Stepford Wives, then you might as well ban me, (something which you're quite obviously itching to do) as there would be no point in being a member of a forum, where you're not allowed to speak politely and freely, without being accused of shit stirring every time you post something which differs from a staff members view.

[banditboy2006]

that's bull as I haven't even sent a pm to geddy on here

[aaamusements]

Then I suggest you read my post again and copy and paste the part where i say you did that.
By the way, disclosure of a PM takes many forms. It could be forwarded on, email copied or even related in a conversation with somebody, written down on paper and sent via Royal Mail. Lots of different ways. As I pointed out DeathClaw was warned just for disclosing in an open forum post that he had had a PM from Ady, saying hear hear. But in my post above I did not accuse you of PM'ing Geddy.
bj

Deathclaw was warned after failing to heed an unnofficial request that he moderate his behaviour, following a series of unacceptable abusive posts. A number of reports were received complaining about his language and attacks on all and sundry, these were acted upon in a fair and balanced way. The PM reference made by Deathclaw was used in an attempt by him to cause problems, that's why it formed part of the reason for his placement under sanctions.