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Started by 123kid, Mar 11 2005 07:04 PM
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#1
Posted 11 March 2005 - 07:04 PM
#2
Posted 12 March 2005 - 01:04 AM
you have not specified if you with to play them for real, or in an emulator? if its for real, then simply goto a casino, but you`ll draw a blank if you want one on an emulator m8
#3
Posted 12 March 2005 - 07:02 PM
Hi 123kid.
In answer to this posting and the one you made the other day NO.
You have more chance of carrying the machines on your back as you do of emulating them.
In short these machines (and the Atronics) are typically American.
They have ultra complex mechanics (the games are ran from Sdcards) and they have their own custom operating systems based around a tailor made version of Unix.
I can't go into how I know all of this because it's more than my job's worth but all I can say is forget it.
The only hope you would ever have of playing one on your PC is to buy the machine (upward of $5k) and take it apart and try to reverse engineer the software and hardware it runs.
The main problem there is that companies like Atronic and others DO NOT sell machines to the general public and neither do the casinos.
And not just that, these machines are full switchable.
One thing I am sure of is that the actual games are coded within the macromedia enviroment, because I worked for one of the sister companies and put out the resumees for Atronic.
And all of that? ^^^ that's the least of your problems to be honest..
Americans also go absolutely overboard on encryption and protection, Bally for example use 24 eproms at 2mb a piece in their system 8000 video machines...
So, now that we have established that you're not going to ever emulate these machines (and Id be offering 20-30x $500 because of the work it would involve) I suggest trying www.masque.com who do 'simulated' versions of Bally's video machines.
HTH
In answer to this posting and the one you made the other day NO.
You have more chance of carrying the machines on your back as you do of emulating them.
In short these machines (and the Atronics) are typically American.
They have ultra complex mechanics (the games are ran from Sdcards) and they have their own custom operating systems based around a tailor made version of Unix.
I can't go into how I know all of this because it's more than my job's worth but all I can say is forget it.
The only hope you would ever have of playing one on your PC is to buy the machine (upward of $5k) and take it apart and try to reverse engineer the software and hardware it runs.
The main problem there is that companies like Atronic and others DO NOT sell machines to the general public and neither do the casinos.
And not just that, these machines are full switchable.
One thing I am sure of is that the actual games are coded within the macromedia enviroment, because I worked for one of the sister companies and put out the resumees for Atronic.
And all of that? ^^^ that's the least of your problems to be honest..
Americans also go absolutely overboard on encryption and protection, Bally for example use 24 eproms at 2mb a piece in their system 8000 video machines...
So, now that we have established that you're not going to ever emulate these machines (and Id be offering 20-30x $500 because of the work it would involve) I suggest trying www.masque.com who do 'simulated' versions of Bally's video machines.
HTH
#5
Posted 13 March 2005 - 07:54 PM
I've been checking the manuals for Aristocrat's US series (the firm are actually Australian, but market versions of their machines for every territory they can).
In amongst the usual Bally-like evil of encrypted code, Aristocrat machines also use an ARM derivative processor, which power wise is overkill (it's roughly equivalent in output to EPOCH on steroids), but has excellent support for opcode encryption (I think) - just to make sure there's no way of tracing any code.
So, barring some kind of horrible error by the makers, I can't see these being broken.
In amongst the usual Bally-like evil of encrypted code, Aristocrat machines also use an ARM derivative processor, which power wise is overkill (it's roughly equivalent in output to EPOCH on steroids), but has excellent support for opcode encryption (I think) - just to make sure there's no way of tracing any code.
So, barring some kind of horrible error by the makers, I can't see these being broken.
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