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[robbo007]

The Hi-Lo gamble when on a fruit win on the Italian Job is an absolute disgrace. The chances of dieing going lower than a 11 or higher than a 2 on most machines are pretty high, however death is more or less certain on this machine.

Although i get annoyed at losing on 11's eg on most machines, its what you expect. You don't expect to lose every bloody time like the Italian job!

Anyone played any worse Hi-Lo's than this piece of turd?

[Bencrest]

I've always hated the late EPOCH [Maygay, Global, Impulse and Extreme] Hi-Lo gambles. I think the worst was 'Hi-Lo Continue' as a mystery on machines like The Phoenix Knights.

Used to give an 11 or 2, and you've gamble lower than say the 11, the machine would think about it for about 5 seconds with the reel spinning and kill you.

Still, something to learn from, same thing applies on stuff like Mazoomas and BFMs where you can go higher and lower on board spaces. If you need 3 symbols, and you have 2 and can go lower than an 11 for the extra symbol, expect a 12

[collerton]

got a `card shark` at work and it does the same thing on `11s`.

also on the board when you get `?` you just know in vividese that just means lose :evil:

so the moral to this story is:sod the skanking gits!

i`ll stick with emulations

[Lewis777]

There used to be a 5p fruity in my local bowling centre, cant for the life of me remember the name, horse racing theme, used to repeat like hell but otherwise play rubbish & used to offer "collect 3.60 or take a chance" on question marks. Hmmm what to do there eh ? i think it was called royal exchange ?

Anyway, hit the last q mark on the board, 1 move off jp. I was on a 12 so merrily lit up a celebratory ciggy to enjoy whilst my impending jp totted up. Not so, i went lower than a 12 only to hit..... wait for it..... another 12 !!!!

Damn fruitys can be so tight & stingy sometimes but this was the most blatant i ever saw.

[robbo007]

interesting one that Lewis. I played on a well dodgy machine in Ibiza last year, i went lower than 12 and it gave me a 13 (god knows how much i was on as it was to win tokens, and the machine was in spanish)!! i felt right prick when i was told my some Geordie that it does it all the time because....wait for it.....the machine was called "unlucky 13's"

can laugh about it now

[nails]

your obviously not a player, else you would be collecting the wins and aiming your sights on a different feature

if you ever play a machine that you tink is a right pile of poo, your simply just playing it wrong. the fact that you complain that the machine does you on 11s and 2s regularly would suggest to me you need to change your game plan.

when i first learnt the principles of forcing, it was easy for me to think that all machine would play the same, but wrong, different machines need different aproaches. apart from steering well clear of italian job, try going for the feature (3rd from top?) which is a true skill jp, if your lucky it will activate the streak, else walk away.

[Bencrest]

I do have to agree, it was only when I used to play Vivids like the one mentioned above [and god theres a good 6 clones of it ], that you start taking the lower features [although this was on £5 JP]. Although the names totally escape me, theres that feature where you have to hit targets on the alpha by using the outside hold buttons, always got £4.50 on that - basically JP.

The first time I went on it, I thought it would be a case of pushing all gambles until I got the JP, which I expected within a tenner. In the end it cost about £20, and then it just dropped in the Red 7s and said Jackpot - and did the same shortly after, and then I took the features low down the next two boards and got about £4 from each - so about a £3 loss.

[Nudgeman]

Italian Job 2 is the dirty one on cash gambles.
Number three is fairly generous. 2/3/4/9/10/11 win about 85% of the time.

As for Collerton...a Card Shark at work? I've heard about these lucky people who have fruit machines at work, that's like having a section in an amusement arcade where you can do work. They'd be a desk and a PC running Excel. Whereabouts do you work?

[No1Stoney]

I once played an extreme gaming machine when on holiday. It was
"Jackpot and the beanstreak"

If you got a win on the fruits and you have 11 or a 2 to gamble on, it would always kill me, so I got wise and never gambled my wins, but I really hated that machine, Im sure there were a couple of other "Extreme gaming" machines too, and all were the same.

As for italian job 2 (The silver cased one) I think that machine is Excellent, I play it for the sounds, I think it is an awsome machine to play, and it is a machine that I dont mind losing on.. Although once I one £68 from one of these (£5 JP) from 13 consecutive red boards, can you believe it?! I only put about £15 altogether... Anyway moving back on topic, I think it takes the fun out of gaming with the crappy hi-lo gambles because at least before when you had an 11 or a 2 you pretty much knew that you were going to survive, if the machine wanted to kick you off, just give the player a crappy number, thats what I say...

-No1Stoney

[NickYerPesos]

I think that some og the worst for this comes from the ones where you hi lo u a ladder or to move around a board by hi loing.
the worst machines i have ever played for this obvious scam is, GIMME GIMME GIMME, Cash Bang Wallop, and machines like that. all along the barcrest, Mazzoma, BFM games.

[cdbils]

anybody ever played a machine called gene its the worst machine ever, man it sucks so bad.get a win spin 3cherry gamble 3 times for exchange on an 11 for 1.20 lower lands on 12 out,i think i got on the board bout 1or2 times and thats one of them dodgy ones where you spin a feature wheel and if you land on the sameone twice you die.avoid atv all times.

[Bencrest]

I think the worst thing with the Hi-Lo machines, such as Grand Blaster Cash by Mazooma, Gimme Gimme Gimme! + Cash Bang Wallop by Barcrest as examples.... is that they can leave you in a situation where you can't collect a win.

Heres an example. You are on a 9 with an extra life, and you have a £3 repeat on the cash side. You decide to gamble [heck, you have an extra life, why not gamble?], and go lower and get an 8....which gives you a 'symbol', 3 or which will activate Super Shots. You go lower than the 8, as you can't collect anything at this point...and get an 11. You go lower than 11...and get a 12.

Shouldn't really be allowed IMHO but happens pretty frequently from what I can tell. I really can't recommend those machines myself, although some people on here swear by them

[collerton]

Italian Job 2 is the dirty one on cash gambles.
Number three is fairly generous. 2/3/4/9/10/11 win about 85% of the time.

As for Collerton...a Card Shark at work? I've heard about these lucky people who have fruit machines at work, that's like having a section in an amusement arcade where you can do work. They'd be a desk and a PC running Excel. Whereabouts do you work?

we also have a pool table and dart board nudgeman.

where do i work?

the red lion pub?

nope,the supermarket who like to tell you "every little helps".thats quite apt when it comes to `card shark` thinking about it!

[DaemonX]

regarding Lewis's comment on going lower on a 12 and it coming in a 12.

I had that a few times, most of the time it kept gambling but again you had to go high or low on a 12.

HOWEVER there are machines that do this deliberately, as it'll say (reel match) or something and give you a skill shot on the cash trail.

(EG £1.60 up to £3 before continuing gambling)

best we had was Rocket Money where we told someone to go LOWER on a 1 and they DID. (lost amazingly lol)

WORST machine I've played is.... CLUB CASINO CRAZY.

I know machines have it set so you'll win or lose on (dodgy numbers 5,6,7,8) eg Higher on an 8 if it's going to let you win it's worth it as you'll havew a better number for your next gamble.

but Club Casino Crazy......

High on a 5 came in a 7
low on the 7 came in a 6
high on the 6 came in an 8
low on the 8 came in a 2
high on the 2..... you guessed it a ONE!

f&*kn machine lol

[robbo007]

I think the gimme gimme machine and clones, that although it will happily dick you "good numbers", the machine is easy to spot if playing well, or badly. It never gives you payrise-turbowin-jackpot...etc

The thing I hate about these machines is the pointlessness of the fruitgambles before you are on the board. I've successfully gambled up to a fiver on the ladder before exchanging, only to have a couple of crappy cash and couple of crappy features removed, along with a naff bonus

The machines are shockers

[Nudgeman]

BarcrestBenito wrote "I really can't recommend those machines myself, although some people on here swear by them"

That's not true, some people on here swear AT them, not by them.


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Tesco eh? They have fruit machines in supermarket canteens?

Bloomin' 'eck. Leamington Spa Sainsbury's (Shires) used to have a pool table. No gambling machines there though. Is it a £25 jackpot machine?
Bloomin' eck £5/hour wages could go quick. Yikes! A whole day lugging crates of potatoes around (that's what I used to do) and all gone in no time. Ouch.
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12 lower 12? Seen it on Sudden Impact and Money Money Money. Not recreated on emulator versions yet. Both Maygays, only a lose on the latter I seem to recall but a good sign that it is streaking (on its particular program version).


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£49 into Cleudo, £9 out (I collected £2 by mistake)

Assuming 30% industry standard payout.

0.3*49 = 14.7 = drift of only £5.70. Jeez, that jackpot will take AGES. Avoid all bonus suspects, avoid collecting. I suppose I could whack in £80 of credits and let the first question on each time out. That should buzz it up a bit, but can I be bothered. 25 seconds it takes to do that on a 50p. That's 160*25 seconds, let's say 80 minutes to avoid sums. 1 hour and twenty minutes. Nah, it's much more fun playing properly. Questions, questions and more blimin' questions.

Does this ever give ? = 4*MURDERED when it HAS to kill you? Or is it forever landing on blanks, ?=change direction e.t.c