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[barcrest junky]

couldnt log on to dads, its like ive been deleted

 

DADs has been pulled as NQ decided to call us all a bunch of c*nts who aren't worth pandering to.  I can fully understand why DAD is a bit miffed.  I hope it is a temporary hiatus as good things were happening over there outside of KCs EPOCH emulator.  On the bright side we did get a bit of build up of EPOCH roms for when Guitar does deliver EPOCH in Amber 2.

 

bj

[nails]

i wasn't around when he posted that, I guess dad could have just barred NQ?

 

as for the rest of this thread, well I do feel sorry for Guitar in advance if he receives any of this shit.

[DAD]

i wasn't around when he posted that, I guess dad could have just barred NQ?

 

 

The site is now back On-line, and that's exactly what I've done.

[TommyC]

I'm sorry but nq how can we all be a bunch of c***s for caring about the fme scene. People are gonna be rightly pissed off. Weve had more carrots than a thorough bread horse over the years. It just shows that there are still people here who still give a dam!!!

[stardust]

 I wasn,t here when the original emulator creator (wizard) was stood on and shit on for his hard work n grafting, maybe he feels the same way.

 

Vectra bud... that is so wrong a statement on many levels.

 

Re-read FME history and you'll find that it was we, the members who were shit on - all along he was just implementing code that he had already stolen from MAME and originally used to sell the emulators for profit.

 

He didn't care about FME or its members - he just cared about being 'God' - the trouble was, the vast majority of FME members turned atheist and he didn't like it one little bit!

[ritdav]

i don't see why he can't just pass on what he has done to Guitar.There is more to this than just KC not having time.

[DAD]

There is more to this than just KC not having time.

Agreed!  Maybe he's received a cease and desist order from some bitter manufacturer or worse still he might have borrowed MAME code

[letemspin]

 

Vectra bud... that is so wrong a statement on many levels.

 

Re-read FME history and you'll find that it was we, the members who were shit on - all along he was just implementing code that he had already stolen from MAME and originally used to sell the emulators for profit.

 

He didn't care about FME or its members - he just cared about being 'God' - the trouble was, the vast majority of FME members turned atheist and he didn't like it one little bit!

 

 

Man, I'm sorry, but you guys spout such utter, utter shite. Do you even believe it yourselves? Seriously.

 

I've no idea why KC has decided not to engage further or release, but if I were a betting man, I'd wager that the frankly ridiculous 'demands' of those same few old faces might have something to do with it, just like it was with Wizard, ReAnimator and so on. The constant in-fighting, bickering and "mod elections" when there are about 10 of you left in total, with talk of private investigators and all the rest probably didn't help much either. If it were me? I'd run a mile and never look back.

 

Get it into your thick skulls: 'coders' are simply human beings doing stuff for free, they're under absolutely no obligation to you, me, or anyone else here to do jack shit if they so choose. Don't like it? Fine, either (1) pay someone the tens of thousands of pounds it would take to code for you, (2) do it yourself or (3) STFU, and preferably don't keep dragging up the same old fag ends about "stolen code", MAME (hey, that went well) and all the other interminable old revisionist shite that no-one gives a shit about anymore anyway, outside of Dadsfme.

 

I read even NQ has had enough.

Edited by letemspin, 26 April 2015 - 01:33 PM.

[DAD]

 

 

Man, I'm sorry, but you guys spout such utter, utter shite. Do you even believe it yourselves? Seriously.

 

I've no idea why KC has decided not to engage further or release, but if I were a betting man, I'd wager that the frankly ridiculous 'demands' of those same few old faces might have something to do with it, just like it was with Wizard, ReAnimator and so on. The constant in-fighting, bickering and "mod elections" when there are about 10 of you left in total, with talk of private investigators and all the rest probably didn't help much either. If it were me? I'd run a mile and never look back.

 

Get it into your thick skulls: 'coders' are simply human beings doing stuff for free, they're under absolutely no obligation to you, me, or anyone else here to do jack shit if they so choose. Don't like it? Fine, either (1) pay someone the tens of thousands of pounds it would take to code for you, (2) do it yourself or (3) STFU, and preferably don't keep dragging up the same old fag ends about "stolen code", MAME (hey, that went well) and all the other interminable old revisionist shite that no-one gives a shit about anymore anyway, outside of Dadsfme.

 

I read even NQ has had enough.

Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong again and not for the first time eh? 

 

There have never been any demands towards KC AFAIK, certainly not on the forums.  This all stems from his post stating there was to be a BIG announcement on Christmas Eve regarding the emulator.  That never materialised!!  All we want is a answer as to why and I don't see it unreasonable to ask.  If his epoch emulator is scrapped, shelved, broken, unworkable or (insert additional problems here) we can handle it but whatever the reason we deserve an answer.  This 'silence' is exactly what has ruined the scene since the start, especially during wizards time, as he seemed to take great delight in telling us feck all aswell.  If people don't know the truth they make it up and that's when the trouble starts.  If people were more honest and forthcoming like Guitar who gives us regular updates, non of this would ever happen.  This 'too busy' excuse is just horseshit.  It takes 10 seconds to write a short post explaining why the Xmas Eve post never happened, and an apology wouldn't have gone amiss either.   

[letemspin]

Heh. *I'm* wrong, eh...? Casting my mind back, ooh, five years now was it? We were all going to be playing amazeballs MAME layouts and we could forget about the "90s emulator" that was MFME? I seem to remember it was Harvey and myself telling you all it was pure BS then, not that you and the rest of the "crew" would have it of course, and yet, years later with absolutely nowt to show, you're telling me I'm wrong, with not a hint or irony or humility...

 

The difference between, say, you and your cohorts and someone like me is that I recognise that people have their own priorities and lives. I personally think it's amazing that anyone would spend tens of thousands of hours of their own time, freely given, to provide the likes of me and the rest of the 'scene' the emulators upon which all else follows. Of course, I am in no way demeaning all the effort that others put in, in terms of layouts, resource gathering, chucking a few quid into various pots, but I'm sorry, writing a complete, functional, multi-tech emulator is on a whole different plane.

 

The thought of me looking that particular gifthorse in the mouth and demanding responses, blaming 'coders' for having the audacity to not keep me or you absolutely 'up to date', not obeying arbitrary 'deadlines' that have more often than not been pressured out of them, not posting on some forum or other, having the temerity to get on with their private lives whose circumstances may well have changed, and to subject them to years of abuse and shit in some cases - I'm sorry, but it's just absurd.

 

You and a few others will never, never learn; it's just not in your collective nature. You actually do honestly believe that you're personally owed this level of 'service' and you absolutely will not stop, however many people have tried to reason with you, nay have begged you to put a sock in it over the years. Pretty soon now, you'll be all that's left.

Edited by letemspin, 26 April 2015 - 02:11 PM.

[niallquinn]

Heh. *I'm* wrong, eh...? Casting my mind back, ooh, five years now was it? We were all going to be playing amazeballs MAME layouts and we could forget about the "90s emulator" that was MFME? I seem to remember it was Harvey and myself telling you all it was pure BS then, not that you and the rest of the "crew" would have it of course, and yet, years later with absolutely nowt to show, you're telling me I'm wrong, with not a hint or irony or humility...

 

The difference between, say, you and your cohorts and someone like me is that I recognise that people have their own priorities and lives. I personally think it's amazing that anyone would spend tens of thousands of hours of their own time, freely given, to provide the likes of me and the rest of the 'scene' the emulators upon which all else follows. Of course, I am in no way demeaning all the effort that others put in, in terms of layouts, resource gathering, chucking a few quid into various pots, but I'm sorry, writing a complete, functional, multi-tech emulator is on a whole different plane.

 

The thought of me looking that particular gifthorse in the mouth and demanding responses, blaming 'coders' for having the audacity to not keep me or you absolutely 'up to date', not obeying arbitrary 'deadlines' that have more often than not been pressured out of them, not posting on some forum or other, having the temerity to get on with their private lives whose circumstances may well have changed, and to subject them to years of abuse and shit in some cases - I'm sorry, but it's just absurd.

 

You and a few others will never, never learn; it's just not in your collective nature. You actually do honestly believe that you're personally owed this level of 'service' and you absolutely will not stop, however many people have tried to reason with you, nay have begged you to put a sock in it over the years. Pretty soon now, you'll be all that's left.

 

Correct CC - took me years to realise it, but you were correct all along.

 

NQ.

Agreed!  Maybe he's received a cease and desist order from some bitter manufacturer or worse still he might have borrowed MAME code

 

Nope.

 

RE Epoch Emu, it's 99% done, but it unsuable, and no other coder can suss out the last few bugs (few have been asked), or has time too (DT).

 

Which also makes Guitars "I'll have epoch done later this year" seem unlikely I would have thought.  Still, we shall see, maybe he can sort it out where 4 others haven't been able to.  I'd show my arse in woolies window if it happens and they still existed.

 

NQ.

Edited by niallquinn, 26 April 2015 - 02:39 PM.

[ritdav]

 

 

Man, I'm sorry, but you guys spout such utter, utter shite. Do you even believe it yourselves? Seriously.

 

I've no idea why KC has decided not to engage further or release, but if I were a betting man, I'd wager that the frankly ridiculous 'demands' of those same few old faces might have something to do with it, just like it was with Wizard, ReAnimator and so on. The constant in-fighting, bickering and "mod elections" when there are about 10 of you left in total, with talk of private investigators and all the rest probably didn't help much either. If it were me? I'd run a mile and never look back.

 

Get it into your thick skulls: 'coders' are simply human beings doing stuff for free, they're under absolutely no obligation to you, me, or anyone else here to do jack shit if they so choose. Don't like it? Fine, either (1) pay someone the tens of thousands of pounds it would take to code for you, (2) do it yourself or (3) STFU, and preferably don't keep dragging up the same old fag ends about "stolen code", MAME (hey, that went well) and all the other interminable old revisionist shite that no-one gives a shit about anymore anyway, outside of Dadsfme.

 

I read even NQ has had enough.

KC knew all this going in so why start and emu if you aren't going to have the broad shoulders to cope with the scene.If the coder has no interest in doing it for himself first and foremost then why start.He could just say sorry guys i've decided not to share and thats the end of it.

really 99% but unusable.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[altharic]

Simple question and only killcrazy can really answer it.

Why can't he post whats going on?

[niallquinn]

@ Ritdav, I couldn't agree more, but it's his life.  If he wants to post and tell you all, he can.   If he doesn't, end of.  We've never had a public release, and we've still not had a public release.  We've lost nothing.

 

I was just so pissed off with the situation that with some help managed to track him down, and have been lucky to get email replies.  Anyone else could have done this, but no, far easier just to keep moaning and bitching and slagging.

 

@Dad, my post yesterday wasn't aimed at your forum, I don't know why you've taken it so personally - but 15 years on, and the bashing of someone still goes on, whether it's here, your site, on facebook.  Life is too short.  What have we had in FME?  3 forum deaths, 1 person who's health is deteriating week by week.  Going on like bairns, banning, bitching, isn't helping.  Especially as it's the same people over and over if you look back over the last 15 years.

 

Anybody fancy a pint? 

 

NQ.

Simple question and only killcrazy can really answer it.

Why can't he post whats going on?

 

Who knows, he seems upbeat and chatty via email.  I've told him, it's "kicked off" a bit here, but he's yet to post.

 

NQ.

[Geddy]

I've no idea why KC has decided not to engage further or release, but if I were a betting man, I'd wager that the frankly ridiculous 'demands' of those same few old faces might have something to do with it, just like it was with Wizard, ReAnimator and so on. The constant in-fighting, bickering and "mod elections" when there are about 10 of you left in total, with talk of private investigators and all the rest probably didn't help much either. If it were me? I'd run a mile and never look back.

We do not know either BECAUSE HE HAS NOT HAD THER DECENCY TO TAKE A MIN OUT OF HIS BUSY BUSY SCHEDULE TO TELL US!!!

Not sure how we have demanded anything, he came here and said he was working on an epoch emulator, he set the dead lines he broke the promises. Re-A was never badgered and often released minor updates to help issues myself and Bugs were having. Wizard, well he is just a cock I'm afraid and has never wanted a 'scene' from day one, just money using 'ripped off code.' Oh yeah then there was the carrot dangles and that Video. Great bloke Wizard..... top man.... NOT! However he still deserves our uttermost respect and addmiration... yeah right.

Get it into your thick skulls: 'coders' are simply human beings doing stuff for free, they're under absolutely no obligation to you, me, or anyone else here to do jack shit if they so choose. Don't like it? Fine, either (1) pay someone the tens of thousands of pounds it would take to code for you, (2) do it yourself or (3) STFU, and preferably don't keep dragging up the same old fag ends about "stolen code", MAME (hey, that went well) and all the other interminable old revisionist shite that no-one gives a shit about anymore anyway, outside of Dadsfme.

Yeah they are just like us regualar scene members. You know the ones who spend 1000s of hours and £££ making layouts, getting rescources and providing other various services. We just get treated like shit though and that is fine..... no thank you.

I read even NQ has had enough.

Erm NQ has pulled one of his usual stunts and got banned from DADsFME. No doubt it will get twisted that he was 'going the extra mile' or something but really the bull shit has to end....

Heh. *I'm* wrong, eh...? Casting my mind back, ooh, five years now was it? We were all going to be playing amazeballs MAME layouts and we could forget about the "90s emulator" that was MFME? I seem to remember it was Harvey and myself telling you all it was pure BS then, not that you and the rest of the "crew" would have it of course, and yet, years later with absolutely nowt to show, you're telling me I'm wrong, with not a hint or irony or humility...

Again that was not 'us' but a MAME dev, there was plenty of us in the know who realisitcally knew not much if anything would come from it. However what it did prove if nothing else is what a scumbag Wizard was/is. Still selling the MAME team short now I believe..... what a Hero!!

Correct CC - took me years to realise it, but you were correct all along.

No that is just what is convienient to your current situation...

RE Epoch Emu, it's 99% done, but it unsuable, and no other coder can suss out the last few bugs (few have been asked), or has time too (DT).

Which also makes Guitars "I'll have epoch done later this year" seem unlikely I would have thought. Still, we shall see, maybe he can sort it out where 4 others haven't been able to. I'd show my arse in woolies window if it happens and they still existed.

Again bullshit and lies. We do not want to hear this from a coders mouth piece, we woud prefer it to be from the actual coder. Why is that such a problem. If KC has had the time to tell you that is a message or email etc then he has had time to post that here so the members can hear it direct. What are these bugs? Or is that just another bullshit cover story/excuse? Who are these four coders? Sorry again just crap to make you look like you are in the loop when basically you are no better than anyone else.... actually much worse.

[letemspin]

Yeah let's multiquote party like it's 2004, 2007, 2011... yawn. Heard it all before.

Like I say, you'll never get it, and I gave up trying to explain the basics years ago. Know this though: all the bitching, name-calling and whining in the world won't yield up so much as one line of code, not for you - or indeed anyone else.

[DAD]

Heh. *I'm* wrong, eh...? Casting my mind back, ooh, five years now was it? We were all going to be playing amazeballs MAME layouts and we could forget about the "90s emulator" that was MFME? I seem to remember it was Harvey and myself telling you all it was pure BS then, not that you and the rest of the "crew" would have it of course, and yet, years later with absolutely nowt to show, you're telling me I'm wrong, with not a hint or irony or humility...

 

The difference between, say, you and your cohorts and someone like me is that I recognise that people have their own priorities and lives. I personally think it's amazing that anyone would spend tens of thousands of hours of their own time, freely given, to provide the likes of me and the rest of the 'scene' the emulators upon which all else follows. Of course, I am in no way demeaning all the effort that others put in, in terms of layouts, resource gathering, chucking a few quid into various pots, but I'm sorry, writing a complete, functional, multi-tech emulator is on a whole different plane.

 

The thought of me looking that particular gifthorse in the mouth and demanding responses, blaming 'coders' for having the audacity to not keep me or you absolutely 'up to date', not obeying arbitrary 'deadlines' that have more often than not been pressured out of them, not posting on some forum or other, having the temerity to get on with their private lives whose circumstances may well have changed, and to subject them to years of abuse and shit in some cases - I'm sorry, but it's just absurd.

 

You and a few others will never, never learn; it's just not in your collective nature. You actually do honestly believe that you're personally owed this level of 'service' and you absolutely will not stop, however many people have tried to reason with you, nay have begged you to put a sock in it over the years. Pretty soon now, you'll be all that's left.

Seriously full marks for using the word 'crew' again after all these years, but when I said you're wrong I'm specifically on about KC's silence the big Xmas Announcement or rather the lack of an announcement.  I know people have real lives and that takes precedence over FME but I believe in a tiny thing called 'manners'.  When people promise things I expect them to stick to it or give a reason as to why the couldn't - YES is called 'Good Manners', something I believe is lacking from some members of this community.

[letemspin]

Well, it's good manners not to incessantly name-call someone mercilessly for years and years, whilst cheerfully using the product of their labours for a decade and a half, or whatever? Again, without one whit of irony, you're lecturing me about 'good manners', as against a backdrop of the stuff that's been written about one coder or another on your forum for how long...? Seriously, it's just stunning!

 

Last word from me though as I really can't be bothered with this crap again; clearly there's nothing I could ever say to change yours and a few others' minds one iota, which is basically the problem of course, and absolutely no good can ever come from such an intervention, as has been so ably demonstrated over the years.

Edited by letemspin, 26 April 2015 - 03:26 PM.

[altharic]

Well, it's good manners not to incessantly name-call someone mercilessly for years and years, whilst cheerfully using the product of their labours for a decade and a half, or whatever? Again, without one whit of irony, you're lecturing me about 'good manners', as against a backdrop of the stuff that's been written about one coder or another on your forum for how long...? Seriously, it's just stunning!
 
Last word from me though as I really can't be bothered with this crap again; clearly there's nothing I could ever say to change yours and a few others' minds one iota, which is basically the problem of course, and absolutely no good can ever come from such an intervention, as has been so ably demonstrated over the years.

You've name called me for years whether I've done anything wrong or not, makes you a hypocrite shame you are too busy to post back apologise ah well maybe next time you visit.....

[stardust]

 

 

Last word from me though as I really can't be bothered with this crap again

 

Well to say 'you can't be bothered' is an understatement...

 

...how many posts have you just made spouting the same old crap that we've heard time and time before?

 

Wizard is gone - he's history mate and a fair few members who have joined these last 8 years haven't even heard of him anyway - stop living in the past - you'll find it so much easier to accept the present situation.

 

You carry on worshiping 'God' if you want too - you'll find soon within FME that you're on your own in that old chestnut! we've been atheist now in FME for many years since your 'God' abandoned his 'creation' lol