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[khards]

Lose your money slower..

[ady]

Lose your money slower..

How do you work that out?....Note changer, thats it nothing else! won't alter any play whatsoever--then these are the people that believe tapping the button gives a better chance of a repeat!!

[Sarky]

How do you work that out?....Note changer, thats it nothing else!

I think he just means it takes longer to keep putting coins in than notes.

[Bencrest]

I think what he also means is that you should get the bank to a certain level and then take it. You'll find that when you start playing from the bank it just keeps going down and you'll lose it all if you chase the original amount

[ady]

So nobody really knows whats meant.......Thats the outcome from a 1 line answer with no quote!

[resigner]

Its completly 100% random, as dictated by the RNG in the bottom. So whether you have £20, £200, £1000 in the bank, or your using the note changer, not using the note changer, playing 10 lines, 20 lines, have used quid coins, gently press the start button, hit it hard, use your left foot to press it, have a goldfish called Brian, play it at 3.04pm every saturday whilst singing Amarillo or anything else makes no difference at all.

The RNG picks a number, that number equals a win or lose, and the machine spins the right spin to give that win or lose. thats how it works, nothing else.

Ok, so the conspiracy theorists are right, Astra is indeed run by aliens from the planet wibble, they feed on pound coins you put in the slotto's, and that bonus game actually features them and not some dodgy cartoon charachters...............

You decide which is more likely...........

res

wibble.

[Bencrest]

Well, it is totally random, and that isn't being debated by me, what I mean is that if you get the bank to about £200 say and play it at £2 a spin I really don't believe you'll make any more money.

Yes, it is 'random', but the odds of getting other than 50p wins from Cherries e.t.c. aren't particularly great

[frankie4fingers]

I agree with Ben. Everytime I get a big win and play from the bank I never seem to get anymore so I usually just walk away with my winnings

[Sarky]

It should be noted that the £500 limit is only a guideline and not the law. In theory you could offer as many chances as you want, giving £1,000 or £2,000 jackpots.

No sooner do I mention it than someone goes and does it. It was on the front cover of coinslot today and here is their flyer: http://www.conceptga...dhotleaf_lg.jpg

Now not only does this game breach the BACTA/Gaming Board guidelines on S16 machines. Why? It's maximum win per spin is £675. (The limit is £500.) It is also illegal. Why? By awarding wins on one chance you preclude the possibility of awarding any win on other chances. In other words, you are buying chances that are guaranteed to lose! This kind of independance can only be achieved on video platforms on reels it is impossible.

It'll be interesting to see how the Gaming Board respond to this!

[skabaz]

whats the maximum stake on this machine???


baz

[Bencrest]

If it's anything like some of the Elvis shite by Barcrest, probably about £4.75

[Nudgeman]

£6500 cycled though a slotto over two months?
Bazpeeb surely you have missed a zero or three? On £2/spin you could easily cycle that through in a day!

[Bencrest]

Problem is, I know one arcade - Peterborough New Horizons, has 4 of them, and from memory 2 Magic Games machines.

Wrong clientelle unfortunately. Young people play the Euphoria, PCB and the King Kebab, and old people play the Super Reels OXO, Party Time and Top Slot

I don't think theres any real market for the damn things in most arcades. On 3 winlines [30p] you'd struggle to get a win [IMHO] within £3 [10 spins], and when you got a win it would invariably be 50p from Cherries

[Sarky]

whats the maximum stake on this machine???

I don't know what the maximum stake is, the coinslot article didn't say. I'll try to find out... I also just noticed that it has buttons under the reels which suggests holds or nudges, this is also illegal on S16 as the player may not interfere with the result (nudges) and no linkage is allowed between games (holds).

[TheMission]

I don't know what the maximum stake is, the coinslot article didn't say. I'll try to find out... I also just noticed that it has buttons under the reels which suggests holds or nudges, this is also illegal on S16 as the player may not interfere with the result (nudges) and no linkage is allowed between games (holds).

There are no holds and no nudges on this game. It's 10p per line x 27 lines.

I don't get your bit about 'precluding wins' making it illegal. What's that about?

[Sarky]

There are no holds and no nudges on this game. It's 10p per line x 27 lines.

Ok fair enough. As I say I've never seen the machine in real life only the flyer.

I don't get your bit about 'precluding wins' making it illegal. What's that about?

Here's what I mean; it's a bit fuzzy but on the flyer it looks like there're 8 unique symbols on the reels. Now however you decide which symbol goes where must be independant of any other symbol drawn (remember this is just prize bingo in disguise). It's not enough to just randomly decide where the reels will stop. If, for example, you decide where the reel will stop based on the centre symbol in the display then you force the top and bottom symbols to be some symbol not determined randomly. You can't uniquely and randomly choose each symbol used for determining the winning chances which is not allowed. This is possible on video reels but not on mechanical reels because they would have to be astronomically long.

[skabaz]

£6500 cycled though a slotto over two months?
Bazpeeb surely you have missed a zero or three? On £2/spin you could easily cycle that through in a day!


its a quiet arcade with only around 30 machines.

baz

[Big_G123]

dont think so as been far to new a machine (sure some1 will correct if wrong)

[Bencrest]

They wouldn't work,

a) They will no doubt have some kind of encryption, probably a dongle like the JPM SWPs.

They will need a seperate Random Number Generator in order to work.

If you like stuff like Slotto, why not go to an online casino like www.willhill.com and play Multi-Line slots? You could bet from say 1p per winline to a pretty bizarre £10 per winline.... basically the same as slotto but with different graphics.