i see quite a few FME users are blade runner fans, and could possibly make your day to tell you that - for some time now, ridley scott has been planning a `workprint version` specifically for DVD. though announced several years ago, the original bank creditors of the film have a partial stake/say in the production and have been reluctant to allow ridley to go back and re-edit the film. (the original workprint version was shown at a premiere many years ago, bu the audience feedback was that they did not understand what was going on, thus after a few tweaks and a voice over, blade runner as we know it was born)
this version contains different dialog, such as the flight scene with chew and deckard, as well as deckard and the snake salesman. extended scenes, deleted scenes (hospital scene from leon casualty in the beginning) alternate rachael scenes with deckard in his flat, extended violence scenes and totally reworked endings.
the original ladd company has been nothing but uncoperative in the matter, but ridley is determined to make a full DVD with 3 versions on one disc, being original, directors cut and workprint version.
i believe i have the workprint version script somewhere, if it interests anyone
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 10:37 AM
Cool! 
Do you have any web links for this info mate?
Do you have any web links for this info mate?
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 10:50 AM
Ohhh been awaiting for this, I heard about it a while back. I have the DC version but the quality is crap looks like they just dumped a VHS copy to disc to get it out for a quick sale.
I was a big fan of the original, and had mixed feeling when the DC version came out, although I preferred the newer downbeat ending but I like films with narrative so was upset that was omitted, it gave it a cool 50's gangster feel to it.
I look forward to the WP version as there a several questionable edits in the film that make no sense to me, whether they are on purpose to subliminaly tell us something or whether it's just an editing miskate I don't know, perhaps the new version will clear it up.
Have a better one
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I was a big fan of the original, and had mixed feeling when the DC version came out, although I preferred the newer downbeat ending but I like films with narrative so was upset that was omitted, it gave it a cool 50's gangster feel to it.
I look forward to the WP version as there a several questionable edits in the film that make no sense to me, whether they are on purpose to subliminaly tell us something or whether it's just an editing miskate I don't know, perhaps the new version will clear it up.
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additional differences (that have not been reported) between this version and the other "regular" versions:
Sound was mixed in 6-track Dolby Stereo, and contained numerous differences in sound effects, music, and dialogue as compared to the standard 35mm 5-track mixes.
Opening shots did not include close-up and subsequent pull-aways from Holden's eye as he looks out the window, it simply cut closer and closer to the Tyrell Corp. building until the interior could be seen. All the while, air-traffic control headings can be heard being issued during the sequence (it was originally edited to suggest a view from a spinner as it flies toward the Tyrell Corp.).
After Leon fires on Holden and Holden crahes through the wall, hitting the table, the shot stays on Holden as fan blades brush his hair and his back smokes from the gunfire.
Deckard's meal at "THE WHITE DRAGON" can be seen being laid on the bar in front of him, rather than merely being heard.
No narration during the scene where Deckard awaits a seat at "THE WHITE DRAGON", but the blimp's advertisement is un-altered in the background (unlike in the "Director's Cut", where it WAS altered to cover the narration over).
When Deckard and Gaff inspect Leon's address and the attendant opens his room for them, he says, "Kowalski", indicating the current tenant. Kowalski is Leon's "last name".
Roy does not ask Chew, "Now...where would we find this J. F. Sebastian?"; the scene merely cuts to Deckard driving home.
When Deckard plays the piano in a depressed stupor: a) there is no unicorn vision,
there is no background music, and c) we hear the one or two notes Harrison Ford actually played on the set.
Deckard's search for Abduul Hasaan lasts longer: we see more of Animoid Row and the back streets of the sector.
After Zhora attacks Deckard and flees, we see Deckard loosen his tie from his throat...as if he was nearly beheaded!
"If I Didn't Care", by the Ink Spots, was originally heard in the background when Deckard purchases a bottle of Tsing Tao.
In Deckard's apartment, there originally was no "Love Theme" as we all know and love; the initial music track merely continues on longer. Also, Rachel plays a different selection on the piano when testing herself; it actually was the sheet music we see displayed!
When Roy kills Tyrell, the footage of Tyrell dying was more in tone with the International Version (yet still somewhat tamer) and Roy then turns to Sebastian saying, "I'm sorry, Sebastian. Come. COME", as he stalks J.F.
Bryant's info to Deckard over the CB about Tyrell's and Sebastian's deaths are heard as we see Deckard driving through the tunnel. When Deckard is parked in his sedan on the street, he is merely preparing to call J.F.'s apartment before the police spinner interrogates him.
We actually see Roy break Deckard's fingers, in close up, with a prop-hand.
More shots of Deckard as he hangs on to the nieghboring building for dear life, after "jumping the gorge".
Different, farther-away shots of Roy as Deckard watches him die. Alternate narration was placed here (the only narration in this version), which consisted of this: "I watched him die all night. It was a long, slow thing and he fought it all the way. He never whimpered and he never quit. He took all the time he had as though he loved life very much. Every second of it...even the pain. Then, he was dead."
No shots of the "rolling TV monitors" in Deckard's apartment as he searches for Rachel. The shot merely continues, close up on Deckard, from the opening shot of the sequence, until he reaches down to pull the covers from over Rachel.
No end credits, merely exit music: the same cue heard as Gaff takes Deckard to see Bryant at the opening....
and...An extra sequence shown recently in England on a Channel 4 documentary shows Deckard talking to Holden in hospital. "Deckard it's tough now, these replicants aren't just a bunch of muscle minors any more, they're no goddamn different from you or me!". Holden talks about Leon and the circumstances around the VK interview in the Tyrell building. "its all over now, its a wipeout, they're almost US!". At the end of the documentary Ridley Scott finally confirms that Deckard is in fact a Replicant.
Sound was mixed in 6-track Dolby Stereo, and contained numerous differences in sound effects, music, and dialogue as compared to the standard 35mm 5-track mixes.
Opening shots did not include close-up and subsequent pull-aways from Holden's eye as he looks out the window, it simply cut closer and closer to the Tyrell Corp. building until the interior could be seen. All the while, air-traffic control headings can be heard being issued during the sequence (it was originally edited to suggest a view from a spinner as it flies toward the Tyrell Corp.).
After Leon fires on Holden and Holden crahes through the wall, hitting the table, the shot stays on Holden as fan blades brush his hair and his back smokes from the gunfire.
Deckard's meal at "THE WHITE DRAGON" can be seen being laid on the bar in front of him, rather than merely being heard.
No narration during the scene where Deckard awaits a seat at "THE WHITE DRAGON", but the blimp's advertisement is un-altered in the background (unlike in the "Director's Cut", where it WAS altered to cover the narration over).
When Deckard and Gaff inspect Leon's address and the attendant opens his room for them, he says, "Kowalski", indicating the current tenant. Kowalski is Leon's "last name".
Roy does not ask Chew, "Now...where would we find this J. F. Sebastian?"; the scene merely cuts to Deckard driving home.
When Deckard plays the piano in a depressed stupor: a) there is no unicorn vision,
there is no background music, and c) we hear the one or two notes Harrison Ford actually played on the set.Deckard's search for Abduul Hasaan lasts longer: we see more of Animoid Row and the back streets of the sector.
After Zhora attacks Deckard and flees, we see Deckard loosen his tie from his throat...as if he was nearly beheaded!
"If I Didn't Care", by the Ink Spots, was originally heard in the background when Deckard purchases a bottle of Tsing Tao.
In Deckard's apartment, there originally was no "Love Theme" as we all know and love; the initial music track merely continues on longer. Also, Rachel plays a different selection on the piano when testing herself; it actually was the sheet music we see displayed!
When Roy kills Tyrell, the footage of Tyrell dying was more in tone with the International Version (yet still somewhat tamer) and Roy then turns to Sebastian saying, "I'm sorry, Sebastian. Come. COME", as he stalks J.F.
Bryant's info to Deckard over the CB about Tyrell's and Sebastian's deaths are heard as we see Deckard driving through the tunnel. When Deckard is parked in his sedan on the street, he is merely preparing to call J.F.'s apartment before the police spinner interrogates him.
We actually see Roy break Deckard's fingers, in close up, with a prop-hand.
More shots of Deckard as he hangs on to the nieghboring building for dear life, after "jumping the gorge".
Different, farther-away shots of Roy as Deckard watches him die. Alternate narration was placed here (the only narration in this version), which consisted of this: "I watched him die all night. It was a long, slow thing and he fought it all the way. He never whimpered and he never quit. He took all the time he had as though he loved life very much. Every second of it...even the pain. Then, he was dead."
No shots of the "rolling TV monitors" in Deckard's apartment as he searches for Rachel. The shot merely continues, close up on Deckard, from the opening shot of the sequence, until he reaches down to pull the covers from over Rachel.
No end credits, merely exit music: the same cue heard as Gaff takes Deckard to see Bryant at the opening....
and...An extra sequence shown recently in England on a Channel 4 documentary shows Deckard talking to Holden in hospital. "Deckard it's tough now, these replicants aren't just a bunch of muscle minors any more, they're no goddamn different from you or me!". Holden talks about Leon and the circumstances around the VK interview in the Tyrell building. "its all over now, its a wipeout, they're almost US!". At the end of the documentary Ridley Scott finally confirms that Deckard is in fact a Replicant.
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 11:14 AM
this should get people on the right track -
http://www.blade-run...versioni-e.html
if you hunt around, you can download the missing hospital sequence, poor quality, but its basically holden who interview leon, taking to deckard in hospital.
it is however fustrating to note that these threads have been around since 2003-2004, and a fair few TV interviews have been done by ridley, confirming that he wants to do this new version, stating the DC was not what he would call a true DC at all, more a rush job to keep warner happy for its DVD release
http://www.blade-run...versioni-e.html
if you hunt around, you can download the missing hospital sequence, poor quality, but its basically holden who interview leon, taking to deckard in hospital.
it is however fustrating to note that these threads have been around since 2003-2004, and a fair few TV interviews have been done by ridley, confirming that he wants to do this new version, stating the DC was not what he would call a true DC at all, more a rush job to keep warner happy for its DVD release
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:15 AM
as of 12 july 2005, ive just ordered the BLADE RUNNER INTERNATIONAL Directors Workprint Extended Version CUT 4 DISC SET DVD SET!
quite a mouthfull, i paid $159.00 AUS dollars for it, and hope its not money down the pan.
DISC 1 CONTAINS THE INTERNATIONAL/EUROPEAN CUT. THIS IS THE FULL NARRATED VERSION OF THE FILM. THIS DISC CONTAINS SURROUND SOUND, WIDESCREEN (2.35:1). THIS PRINT OF THE FILM CONTAINS BOTH THE ORIGINAL VOICE OVER NARRATIVE AND THE ORIGINAL "HAPPY ENDING."
THIS DISC INCLUDES THE ULTRA VIOLENT VERSION OF;
TYRELLS DEATH
PRIS' RETIREMENT
BATTY'S STIGMATA
DISC 2
PINK FLOYD AND TORI AMOS MUSIC VIDEOS SYNCHED WITH CLIPS FROM THE FILM
HARRISON FORD'S INTERVIEW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN DISCUSSING THE FILM
"ON THE EDGE OF BLADE RUNNER" A BBC DOCUMENTARY INCLUDING THE LONG SOUGHT AFTER HOSPITAL SCENE.
4 WORKPRINT CLIPS INCLUDING A WHOLE DIFFERENT NARRATIVE FOLLOWING BATTY'S DEATH
HARD TO FIND "THE DIRECTORS" CLIP FROM THE ENCORE NETWORK.
INCLUDING ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH THE DIRECTOR AND STAR OF THE FILM
BOTH THE ORIGINAL AND DIRECTORS CUT ADDITIONS OF THE TRAILOR
AN AWESOME CONCEPT ART SLIDESHOW FEATURING MANY IDEAS THAT NEVER SAW THE FINAL CUT.
BRAVO DOCUMENTARY CLIPS
DVD-ROM FEATURES INCLUDE
A BLADE RUNNER TRIVIA
SEVERAL BLADE RUNNER SOUNDTRACKS : ESPER, GONGO, NOVEMBER 2019
BLADE RUNNER THEME PACKS, SCREEN SAVERS AND FONTS
EXCERPT FROM THE BLADE RUNNER RADIO SHOW, ORIGINALLY AIRED IN 1982
BLADE RUNNER SCRIPT: ORIGINAL RELEASE, H FANCHER'S, FANCHER AND PEOPLES'
PLUS MORE!!
DISC 3
THE COMPLETE RAW AND RARE DENVER/DALLAS WORKPRINT THE ULTIMATE BLADE RUNNER BY FAR THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER BLADE RUNNER ADDITION OF THE FILM
DISC 4
THE 1991 DIRECTORS CUT IN ANAMORPHIC WIDESCREEN, DOLBY DIGITAL SURROUND SOUND CONTAINS CAST BIOGRAPHIES
quite a mouthfull, i paid $159.00 AUS dollars for it, and hope its not money down the pan.
DISC 1 CONTAINS THE INTERNATIONAL/EUROPEAN CUT. THIS IS THE FULL NARRATED VERSION OF THE FILM. THIS DISC CONTAINS SURROUND SOUND, WIDESCREEN (2.35:1). THIS PRINT OF THE FILM CONTAINS BOTH THE ORIGINAL VOICE OVER NARRATIVE AND THE ORIGINAL "HAPPY ENDING."
THIS DISC INCLUDES THE ULTRA VIOLENT VERSION OF;
TYRELLS DEATH
PRIS' RETIREMENT
BATTY'S STIGMATA
DISC 2
PINK FLOYD AND TORI AMOS MUSIC VIDEOS SYNCHED WITH CLIPS FROM THE FILM
HARRISON FORD'S INTERVIEW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN DISCUSSING THE FILM
"ON THE EDGE OF BLADE RUNNER" A BBC DOCUMENTARY INCLUDING THE LONG SOUGHT AFTER HOSPITAL SCENE.
4 WORKPRINT CLIPS INCLUDING A WHOLE DIFFERENT NARRATIVE FOLLOWING BATTY'S DEATH
HARD TO FIND "THE DIRECTORS" CLIP FROM THE ENCORE NETWORK.
INCLUDING ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH THE DIRECTOR AND STAR OF THE FILM
BOTH THE ORIGINAL AND DIRECTORS CUT ADDITIONS OF THE TRAILOR
AN AWESOME CONCEPT ART SLIDESHOW FEATURING MANY IDEAS THAT NEVER SAW THE FINAL CUT.
BRAVO DOCUMENTARY CLIPS
DVD-ROM FEATURES INCLUDE
A BLADE RUNNER TRIVIA
SEVERAL BLADE RUNNER SOUNDTRACKS : ESPER, GONGO, NOVEMBER 2019
BLADE RUNNER THEME PACKS, SCREEN SAVERS AND FONTS
EXCERPT FROM THE BLADE RUNNER RADIO SHOW, ORIGINALLY AIRED IN 1982
BLADE RUNNER SCRIPT: ORIGINAL RELEASE, H FANCHER'S, FANCHER AND PEOPLES'
PLUS MORE!!
DISC 3
THE COMPLETE RAW AND RARE DENVER/DALLAS WORKPRINT THE ULTIMATE BLADE RUNNER BY FAR THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER BLADE RUNNER ADDITION OF THE FILM
DISC 4
THE 1991 DIRECTORS CUT IN ANAMORPHIC WIDESCREEN, DOLBY DIGITAL SURROUND SOUND CONTAINS CAST BIOGRAPHIES
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:22 AM
Well, from the pics, it is a DVDR set, you'll probably get your cash back by selling sets on eBay for about £20 each, seeing as how I pay about 60p for 4x Ritek G05 DVDrs, 7p per case, and about 30p second class post.
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Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:24 AM
so you after a copy then?? fme member special ??
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:30 AM
Nah, not really my thing - hope it works out ok for you
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Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:34 AM
4x Ritek G05 DVDrs,
They are not 4x, they are substandard 8x. Put them in a 4x max writer and enjoy your fresh coaster!
I know, ive bought them before. Went in and demanded my cash back though
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 09:49 AM
They are not 4x, they are substandard 8x. Put them in a 4x max writer and enjoy your fresh coaster!
I know, ive bought them before. Went in and demanded my cash back though
No, I mean 4x DVDs as in 4 DVDs. sorry, like 15p per disc so 60p for 4. My fault for being complex
Anyway, G05 RiData/RiVision are IMHO the best quality discs you can get in that price range. I mean, Taiyo Yuden is good but I can't afford that
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Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
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Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 04:12 PM
so you after a copy then?? fme member special ??
f*** yeah
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 05:54 PM
No, I mean 4x DVDs as in 4 DVDs. sorry, like 15p per disc so 60p for 4. My fault for being complex
Anyway, G05 RiData/RiVision are IMHO the best quality discs you can get in that price range. I mean, Taiyo Yuden is good but I can't afford that
Ahh sorry, thought you ment the speed rating
.I use GO4 RiData/RiDisc because my 4x writer takes a sh*t if I put G05s in it
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 06:08 PM
so you after a copy then?? fme member special ??
PM me the details....
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 11:18 PM
well, today i can finally leave this thread to rest in peace.
today i received the 4 disc set from Australia, it contained the directors cut, the international cut (well worth a look!) the bonus disc (amongst other things - excellent channel 4 documentary `on the edge of blade runner` and lastly, what has been concidered to be the holy grail of film previews, the denver/dallas workprint version.
what started as a shoddy camera under a coat in a cinema job, got a little better, but none the less, a poor job. Since ive always been an avid fan of blade runner, i was pleasently surprised with the different angle shots, emmisions and omisions of shots and finally a totally new voice over at the end.
that said, i was shafted for what i paid.
i spoke to Gary Willoughby at http://www.brmovie.com/ and he had this to say
"I talked to the people at scottfree and there probably be no progress untill the principals at Br partnership basically bud yorkin ( one of the richest men in hollywood) dies... perhaps then br special edition can be released I do not see that happening for many years.. "
a nail in the coffin for avid blade runner fans perhaps, but we all have hope, dont we?
today i received the 4 disc set from Australia, it contained the directors cut, the international cut (well worth a look!) the bonus disc (amongst other things - excellent channel 4 documentary `on the edge of blade runner` and lastly, what has been concidered to be the holy grail of film previews, the denver/dallas workprint version.
what started as a shoddy camera under a coat in a cinema job, got a little better, but none the less, a poor job. Since ive always been an avid fan of blade runner, i was pleasently surprised with the different angle shots, emmisions and omisions of shots and finally a totally new voice over at the end.
that said, i was shafted for what i paid.
i spoke to Gary Willoughby at http://www.brmovie.com/ and he had this to say
"I talked to the people at scottfree and there probably be no progress untill the principals at Br partnership basically bud yorkin ( one of the richest men in hollywood) dies... perhaps then br special edition can be released I do not see that happening for many years.. "
a nail in the coffin for avid blade runner fans perhaps, but we all have hope, dont we?
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Posted 01 February 2006 - 09:56 PM
just a quick note for all of the Blade Runner fans on here -
The Digital Bits has reported on an official Warners press conference:
"And finally, here's a bit of news that's going to get a lot of you excited (and I made a point to specifically ask about this title, believe me)... Ridley Scott's Blade Runner (1982) is currently on track for release as a multi-disc special edition in time for its 25th anniversary in 2007. The release is far from certain (as usual, there's a lot more that I can't post about this title yet - think of the old saying, "Loose lips sink ships"), but Warner says that work is proceeding, most of the key players are involved and things are "looking good" for release next year. We'll see."
I had got tired of saying there is no news, but as Blade Runner DVDs have gradually been disappearing from various regions and I have heard the odd rumours about things, I've been preparing a complete rewrite of this page. But here is some news about *a* new Blade Runner DVD release. More news to come shortly.
Checkout www.bladezone.com for all the latest gossip.
The Digital Bits has reported on an official Warners press conference:
"And finally, here's a bit of news that's going to get a lot of you excited (and I made a point to specifically ask about this title, believe me)... Ridley Scott's Blade Runner (1982) is currently on track for release as a multi-disc special edition in time for its 25th anniversary in 2007. The release is far from certain (as usual, there's a lot more that I can't post about this title yet - think of the old saying, "Loose lips sink ships"), but Warner says that work is proceeding, most of the key players are involved and things are "looking good" for release next year. We'll see."
I had got tired of saying there is no news, but as Blade Runner DVDs have gradually been disappearing from various regions and I have heard the odd rumours about things, I've been preparing a complete rewrite of this page. But here is some news about *a* new Blade Runner DVD release. More news to come shortly.
Checkout www.bladezone.com for all the latest gossip.
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