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[GaryMPU34]

13824 to 1?? That's pretty crappy odds..... Never realised it was that low.. Thanks Gary ---- Probably not going to play these things again now.

Cheers

James

Maybe so but you have a 11.5 to 1 chance of getting 3 x in a line and while testing it the record number of wins in a row was 5. Quite often it will spin a couple of lines of xs in, lose, then a few more xs and before you know it £5 has built up to 30-50 quid

[kiteboy]

I have just started playing these machines eg Cashino, Fortune 500 (crap and boring bing bing bing bing), another astra one (not sure of the name partytime themed tho) and Random spinner, and found that the only fairly decent one out of them is Random spinner. This machine seems to have a wide variety of features and a little known sub game which is kinda fun. So far to date i have lifted the guts of £2000 out of it! The min payoff for a spin of its wheel is £15 whereas Cashino is something like £2!! BUT and i mean BUT they are very very easy to pump full of cash and considering you can only draw around £300 from a cash machine in one day means you will feel like crap when your pockets are empty and some old dear takes a a couple of hundred out of it. P.s. do these machines need a club licence like those club machines in well er clubs?

[jamesb99_1999]

It wouldn't matter if you put £300 in then someone else went on - they have no more or less chance of winning - that's the point - they are random - You could theoretically get 10 jackpots in a row, equally you could spin 1000 times without a win.

[Winnie]

What is this "Background game" that people are referring to?

[kiteboy]

Press the info button 3 times for mystrey win spin's.

[jamesb99_1999]

I thought the odds on the mystery game were much lower though - You have to get two question marks and then it gives you a prize. 99% of the time the prize is just your stake back and the odds of getting them seem to be about 8-1--rubbish game

[Sarky]

Gary, do you still work for Concept, if not who do you work for now?

I'm interested to know who you work for too, Steve?

I've worked at Bell Fruit and Maygay although at neither for a few years. I work mostly freelance now although NDA crap prevents me from saying exactly what.
I might know you.

[nails]

has anybody else noticed that some random machines act funny before they pay out ???

i mean, party slutto seems to spin slower, and monkey business apparently rolls the jackpot in backwards.

[jamesb99_1999]

Because they are so upset about paying out they are having a fit if they pay out the jackpot.. After all they spend so much time eating your money it must be so rare for the poor things.. I know my dad would have had a turn paying out £500 for just £2.. One thing that does annoy me about these things as well is that the £500 just goes back to credit - The amount of people who sit and then play all this off - It means I don't even get to hear £500 coins hit the payout tray ---- I like that sound."!"

[stevedude2]

I'm interested to know who you work for too, Steve?

I've worked at Bell Fruit and Maygay although at neither for a few years. I work mostly freelance now although NDA crap prevents me from saying exactly what.
I might know you.

I work for Astra Games, been there 16 months. Cue a barrage of posts moaning about Party Games Slotto...

[cliffc]

Hi All

Naw your more likely get a barage of posts asking you to write a Party Time Emulator.

Cliff

[nails]

get it right, its Partytime SLUTTO.

[khards]

There is someone selling 50% kits for slotto over at amusement arcade!!!!

http://members2.boar...com/Amusements/

What a ripoff, Dont think I will touch one of these again, no wonder people are losing 1k's of pounds

[stevedude2]

They don't exist. If they did exist, they wouldn't work. If they did work, they would be illegal. If they were legal, Astra would take them to court.

I was going to reply to the thread, but other posters have done a good enough job already.

'Wanna buy a gold watch, guv?'

[khards]

I thought the minimum percentage for this kind of machine is 50% ??

[stevedude2]

All Slotto games are fixed at 94% per line, and even then they can rip your arm off if you're unlucky. This guy is talking through his hat.

Problem is there are some unscrupulous back street arcade owners who will try to buy one of these I'm sure...

[kensplace2]

Now Im a little confused...

1. These machines are claimed to be TOTALLY RANDOM.
(just repeat that again - TOTALL 100 percent random...........)

So each spin has a equal chance of winning the jackpot.

2. These machines are fixed at 94 or 96 percent payout.........

Hang on, the very nature of randomness means that (however unlikely) it is possible for a RANDOM machine to NEVER EVER payout AT ALL IN ITS LIFE.
Its unlikely, but possible, as the numbers are random.

Statistically, yes, its unlikely, but NO ONE ON THIS EARTH can PROVE that a machine, that is RANDOM, will pay out at any time in its life.
If the numbers are random, there is a chance it will never pay.

Random, and fixed percentages dont go together in a legal sense of the word.

Yes a machine may randomly have a 96 percent chance of winning, but if it genuinely is random, then they cant PROVE it will ever pay out. Its against the nature of randomness to be able to do so.


Obviously the machines do pay out, but the logic is flawed, and as they wont prove anything by being open about how its done, common sense dictates they have something to HIDE.

[Sarky]

Hang on, the very nature of randomness means that (however unlikely) it is possible for a RANDOM machine to NEVER EVER payout AT ALL IN ITS LIFE.
Its unlikely, but possible, as the numbers are random.

Do you realise the kind of odds you are talking about? To simplify; the odds on not getting a head in 100 tosses of a coin are 1267650600228229401496703205376 to 1. Let's put that in some context the odds against winning the lottery are 14000000 to 1. That means the odds of against winning it 4 times in a row are roughly the same as not getting a head in 100 tosses.

I hope you see how ridiculous you are being now. This is just 100 tosses or spins. At 1000 tosses the odds of not getting a win are in the same kind of scales as two people picking random atoms from the earth and three times in a row they pick the exact same atom.

There's more chance of the whole planet exploding into a trillion pieces at exactly 12:32pm a week next thursday than there is of not getting a win on a random slot. This is a lot better odds than any other kind of legal guarantee.

[fistandantilus]

At 1000 tosses the odds of not getting a win are in the same kind of scales as two people picking random atoms from the earth and three times in a row they pick the exact same atom.

There's more chance of the whole planet exploding into a trillion pieces at exactly 12:32pm a week next thursday than there is of not getting a win on a random slot. This is a lot better odds than any other kind of legal guarantee.

1.07150860718626732094842504906 times 10 to the power of 301 is the chance.

funny thing is about statistics, you think that the odds look impossibly big but the fact is if a coin is tossed a thousand times, a result to them odds happens, Ok it might not be all heads or tails but a sequence with them same odds happened lol

makes you think that over a long enough time period any possibility is probable

[ady]

I am not trying to get into this discussion as I know sod all about the odd's of certain perm's.....

All I do know is that I was at Gala on Saturday, and that 'Elvis' thing paid the £500....and the person stopped playing.

Some woman came along and stuck a £20 note in and walked away with.....£500.


If these are rigged (at bingo halls) Mecca is the One to do it.....Gala I - after seeing this - I have more faith in they run 'as they run'