21 replies to this topic

[simpson7647]

well as the title says, how can u tell me if the money u put in is going into the hopper


thanks

[skabaz]

if you cant hear it going all the way to the bottom of the machine then it is going into the hopper.

baz

[simpson7647]

and is it if it goes into the hopper theres more chance of winning or the other way round?

[zzzgirl]

and is it if it goes into the hopper theres more chance of winning or the other way round?

ifs its going in the hopper then its not full so if its dropping below then you got more of a chance of winning unless its been filled up via the refill key

[skabaz]

makes no difference whatsoever if the coins are going into the hopper or the cashbox as to dtermine if the machine is going to payout or not.

baz

[skabaz]

just ask anyone who plays red gaming machines on a regular basis.

but seriously is doesn't matter on any machine.

baz

[Bencrest]

True

Learn to tell 'signs' of what point a machine is at rather than paying attention to where coins are being routed to.

No I won't tell you what 'signs' are because IMHO you are asking in the wrong place - I've said before I'm getting disheartened by the amount of stupid pointless threads on here as of late, and so far ALL of your posts have releated to eBooks you've read bits from but can't be arsed re-reading, or from emptiers you've obviously picked up from somewhere but decided to ask for help with in here.

[lincs1]

i can verify this aswell its all to do with the percentage cycle and not the amount in the hopper

[mangolio]

I was always lead to belive that if a machine was backing then it was ready to drop.After reading this I gather you are saying that if a machine is backing it may still not be due to payout even though it is full. I can understand this as all fruit machines get full at some point otherwise they wouldnt be making much money so it is really just a case of them not being emptied recently.
I must say I have learnt a good yet simple lesson her so thankyou.

[simpson7647]

Actually Ben Only A Few Of My Posts Were On Emptiers And I Help People !!!

God Dont Put Me Down Like That When U Dont Even No The Truth

[Gazeyre1966]

How can a computer chip tell how much money has been inserted into a slot? At the end of the day, that's what runs a machine. Please tell me how tubes being full, cashboxes and anything else you may care to bring up fit into this scenario please?

[Toddyuk]

How can a computer chip tell how much money has been inserted into a slot? At the end of the day, that's what runs a machine. Please tell me how tubes being full, cashboxes and anything else you may care to bring up fit into this scenario please?

Quite simple a switch is triggered when a coin is entered thro slot logging a % in or the old fruitys used to have a simple thin wire that was forced down when a coin was entered , Am sure the newer machines use a more complex sensor these days .

The machine ALWAYS knows exactly how much is in the hopper weather entered thro the slot OR filled up manually straight into the Hopper .

[Bencrest]

Actually Ben Only A Few Of My Posts Were On Emptiers And I Help People !!!

God Dont Put Me Down Like That When U Dont Even No The Truth

Here are the titles of the 6 threads you've started :

'what does this mean 'BFM S16's'

-Regarding emptiers you have heard of on BFM Sec16 machines and wanting to know which machines are included.

'when can i get the e book from '

-Self explanatory.

'what does it mean by 'barcodes' and 'take 321'

-No doubt something regarding a King Kebab / TOT e.t.c.

'arcadia help does this statagie work'

-Probably something to do with a strategy for JPM Arcadia

'Calling Everyone Who Lives In Isle Of Wight!!! '

-Offering to share tips with people on the Isle of Wight.

'how can u tell me the money is going into the hopper '

-This thread.

There you have it. I've yet to see 1 post which isn't something to do with hints/tips/emptiers, and I'm getting tired of reading threads like this on the front page every day.

[Bencrest]

Am sure the newer machines use a more complex sensor these days .
The machine ALWAYS knows exactly how much is in the hopper weather entered thro the slot OR filled up manually straight into the Hopper .

...Unless someone not paying attention pours money directly into the hopper and forgets to press 'topped up. In that scenario, the hopper can be full but the machine believes it is empty.

[Sarky]

Am sure the newer machines use a more complex sensor these days . The machine ALWAYS knows exactly how much is in the hopper weather entered thro the slot OR filled up manually straight into the Hopper .

In modern machines the machine's software is able to tell the coin acceptor where to send the coin either to the hopper or to the cash box. The way the machine knows how many coins are in the hopper is to count each coin in and each coin out.

If you put coins diretly into the hopper without telling the machine about it, it will not know about those coins. There is normally a switch inside the machine the operator can press to tell the machine that the hopper is now full.

How many coins are in the hopper is largely irrelevant and will certainly not make any difference to the way the machine plays in itself. However, it could be useful as an indicator that the machine has just paid out a big win and will therefore not be ready to pay out again anytime soon. (Naturally this does not apply to the random games.)

[simpson7647]

Here are the titles of the 6 threads you've started :

'what does this mean 'BFM S16's'

-Regarding emptiers you have heard of on BFM Sec16 machines and wanting to know which machines are included.

'when can i get the e book from '

-Self explanatory.

'what does it mean by 'barcodes' and 'take 321'

-No doubt something regarding a King Kebab / TOT e.t.c.

'arcadia help does this statagie work'

-Probably something to do with a strategy for JPM Arcadia

'Calling Everyone Who Lives In Isle Of Wight!!! '

-Offering to share tips with people on the Isle of Wight.

'how can u tell me the money is going into the hopper '

-This thread.

There you have it. I've yet to see 1 post which isn't something to do with hints/tips/emptiers, and I'm getting tired of reading threads like this on the front page every day.

yes there all asking bout emptiers hints cheats aint they!!!!
actually ffs the isle of wight 1 wasnt sharing tips it was asking wot fruities are in the pier!!!!! u are a bad lier and need a life
just putting me down!!
Yes i am a noob didnt start fruties long ago but we all start some where!!

[simpson7647]

sorry bout the last post i was annoyed

jsut like u ben i guess


sorry

[pubclown]

How much do hoppers actually hold?

I was led to believe mine (Italian Job 3) hold's 125 pound coins without a not acceptor and 250 if it had one. I currently have 149 in it and 24 coins are now 'excess' coins so im now confused as to when they will drop through to the cash box.

[cde3879]

How much do hoppers actually hold?

I was led to believe mine (Italian Job 3) hold's 125 pound coins without a not acceptor and 250 if it had one. I currently have 149 in it and 24 coins are now 'excess' coins so im now confused as to when they will drop through to the cash box.

This probably won't help you on a standard pub AWP but my club psycho cash beast has a £250 jp and the hopper float is £350 before it starts backing. However the hopper can hold much more than this - that's just what it is set to. £1000jp machines have a hopper float of £1200.

[Bencrest]

If you have excess you have incorrectly set the hopper float.

With a door open, and the refill key inserted, does it show you the hopper balance? If so, and the balance shows on the alpha as £0, and you know for a fact there are no coins in the hopper, you will need to refloat it correctly. If you know the hopper contains no coins, BUT according to the Alpha display it still contains say £149, you need to clear the hopper float.

There will probably be a 'Hopper Dump' switch inside the cashbox. I can't guarentee this procedure will work on your Maygay machine but it works on my BFM Scorp 4 and Barcrest MPU5 so it may be similar on yours.

Anyway you should find this 'Hopper Dump' switch, insert and turn your refill key, press the DUMP switch. The display will probably change to something like 'Dump £1?', and typically you would press the start button to dump the contents. Do this TWICE, and it should reset the hopper balance to zero.

You can then either refill the hopper with £125 using your refill key, by closing all the machine doors, inserting and turning the key, and putting £1 coins into the coinslot - OR

You can manually put £125 coins into the hopper - typically with the top door of the machine open the hopper will be visible and there will be a 'hole' at the top of it, often with an arrow or some picture/text telling you that you can put £1 coins directly into that hole. Anyway you just drop £125 into that hole and then press the 'Hopper Topped Up' switch which will possibly be either near the hopper or mounted on the back of the machine.

Can't guarentee these instructions will work on your machine but I hope they do, if not sure someone else here with Maygay experience will be able to help

£1000jp machines have a hopper float of £1200

According to my Scorpion4 machine, on £500 or £1000 JP you have a dual hopper setup - the Azkoyen bucket hopper holds £800, and the Coin Controls hopper (basically the same as you get in a £25 AWP) will hold an additional £250 - so a float of £1050 for £1000JP.