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#21 kingkallum82

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 11:25 AM

Why on earth cant ebay being such a large company now rgulate what people sell on there as its a blatent disregaurd to the trades discription act. not only that but it would give motorola a bad reputation. Mind you whoever bought this "scam" would have a hard time with the complaints department.

Buyer: hello Motorola complaints
Motorola: yes how can we help you
Buyer: your product doesnt work
Motorola: what exactly is the problem
Buyer: well i brought the t4502 and i am not winning
Motorola: what do you mean not winning
Buyer: i point the device at the fruit machine and nothing is happening apart from i can hear someone else sniggering from it.
Motorola: did you buy it from ebay by any chance
Buyer: yes
Motorola: well sorry sir but you deserve everything you get. By the way i have afree satalite viewer here for £350 I know it looks like a lighter but it does work honest.



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#22 mangolio

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 08:54 PM

So is all the number babble a load of cobblers? If it is I must say he has a good imagination.

p.s a similar item sold for over £52 before. The sellers must cry with laughter when they sell em.
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 09:16 PM

So is all the number babble a load of cobblers? If it is I must say he has a good imagination.

p.s a similar item sold for over £52 before. The sellers must cry with laughter when they sell em.


Oh please tell me your original post was meant as a joke and you seriously weren't asking if these things work....ha ha ha!!!!

If you are stupid enough to buy something like this then you deserve all that you get.

I could confuse anyone with numbers if I had the time to check it out.
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#24 mrmystery83

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:17 PM

I did watch a programme on SKY television, i cant remember the exact name of the programme but it was about trying to cheat the casinos. These 2 guys went in to the slot machine areas and would play a slotto for a while and when they had a bit in the bank would press collect. Now at this point they would stick this "light wand" up the payout chute, and according to this documentary Casino slot machines pay out using Infra red light beam technology. The theory was every time a coin broke the light beam it would know it has payed that coin out and the light wand would interfere with this so the slot machine did not know it had payed out and would just keep dropping coins until it emptied the hopper.

Now 1 of the guys was being a bit sly, but the other was going mental, just emptying machine after machine like no one was watching BUT they caught him on security camera using the light wand and they busted him and his partner as they left the casino. It turns out that it was all pre set up' the casino agreed to let them try to rip them off just to see if their security was good enough to catch them. Thinking about it the programme might have been called Beat the Casino or something similar.

I know i may have strayed off the point slightly but i was just trying to say that there are devices around that can make slot machines pay out, unfortunately though not in this country.


I saw one of the episodes from that series that had a pair of guys who used to work the 'card counting' scam. They made a fortune from Blackjack by having a system where they knew what the number was of the next card. They made mega bucks. It made them both millionaires. Obviously they worked it in the big casinos and didn't bother with the smaller ones.

Speaking of laser emptiers i had heard that you used to be able to fiddle some machines using a laser pen. It had something to do with pointing it at the outside edge of the first reel. But it only gave you credits as opposed to actually dropping them. It doesn't work on any of the new machines though and most of the old ones have now been chipped.

A bloke i know apparently got told about it from a fruitie engineer, it went on for a while before the scam was rumbled. Personally i don't see how it would work. It had something to do with one of the machine sensors on the reels but i wasn't aware there was one?
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Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:18 PM

To Clarify, I have a response from the seller... it IS legit (LOLOLOLOL)

Hi, Thanks for your question. we buy our RF manipulator from a local fruit machine company. i have contacted them about your query and they promptly replyed. they stated that because walkie talkies use a similar system to send out radio waves, it is alot more practicle to use one as a base unit to modify, this is what they have done. Thanks for your question, Fruit_crazy.

So it MUST be true lol
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Posted 02 May 2006 - 02:09 PM

The laser pen trick did work, and the fix was to impliment some shielding. I saw this used in a country pub i was in and the hopper emptied damn quickly.They scooped up the money and fled in a stolen car. Apparently they had hit a couple of other pubs before that one on the same night. These are the kind of scum you are dealing with when using illegal devices and activites to manipulate machines. Think about it, if they don't care about ripping off machines then why should they care about ripping off you.
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#27 mrmystery83

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 03:18 PM

The laser pen trick did work, and the fix was to impliment some shielding. I saw this used in a country pub i was in and the hopper emptied damn quickly.They scooped up the money and fled in a stolen car. Apparently they had hit a couple of other pubs before that one on the same night. These are the kind of scum you are dealing with when using illegal devices and activites to manipulate machines. Think about it, if they don't care about ripping off machines then why should they care about ripping off you.


Good point. So there is a sensor next to the reels. What is it actually used for i wonder?
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