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#1 jaybee

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 08:35 AM

Just wondering when is the next jackpot increase and how much will it be?
May £25 is here for a few years yet?
They shouldn't have changed them from a tenner if you asked me!!
I bet the guys who produced the tokens like euro coin where gutted when cash machines took over.

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 09:40 AM

Good question, I was thinking about this the other day... £25 has been around for a couple of years now, it must be due an increase.... Maybe to £35, or even £50! 8O (Doubtful it'd be 50 I reckon)

Personally, I'd like it if all pubs had Club level machines.... Ooooh yeah! (But I guess thats not what the casual punter playing while he's drinking a pint wants...)

Although having recently just come back from Spain, the machines over there have a €120 Jackpot (about £83), and me and my mate actually managed to take €300+ out of one machine (over £200), and that was just in a standard bar...

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 09:47 AM

whats the point of increasing the jackpots? Since increasing them to £25 the gameplay is shit....until it streaks..Imagine what the gameplay would be like on a £50 Jackpot machine......if you want big wins with better gameplay...bet on the horses... :twisted:
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Posted 23 October 2003 - 10:38 AM

bacta reviews the situation every 3 years, so a change is almost due.
there r rumours in the amusment trade that awps will increse to 30ukp
and arcades will be allowed up to a max of 3 500ukp jackpots. well c.
im a member of coinslot and there does seem to b some articles refering to these rumours.

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 11:25 AM

£30 seems to be the most likely outcome to me.
Interesting, because £30 would draw parallels with the good old days of 10p play £3.00 Jackpot. Just think, we could have Line Up, Exchanges Unlimited and Razzle Dazzle again, with all the wins 10x greater. Couldn't be worse than the rubbish we've got now...

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 11:36 AM

What about the kiddies £5 jackpots?
If they go to £10 10p plays, I think I'll stick to them.



Ps Some one told me that's there's no duty to pay on £5 pound machines is this true?

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Posted 23 October 2003 - 11:37 AM

whats the point of increasing the jackpots? Since increasing them to £25 the gameplay is shit....until it streaks..Imagine what the gameplay would be like on a £50 Jackpot machine......if you want big wins with better gameplay...bet on the horses...


I agree in part with the above, however you do seem to get a more enjoyable game when the cost to play is 30p rather than 25p per game. It would appear that it is not just the size of the Jackpot, but also the cost to play. Have you ever played some of the 5p/£10 JP machines in the seaside arcades? Their play is appalling :evil:. Similarly, I find Club Machines extremely boring to play, as they very rarely give features, and also very tight on gambling. My main gripe about today's AWP machines is that they are so predictable most of the time - you just get a gut feeling when it's going to kill you (usually at about £1.60 - £2.40) - which brings us to the hi-lo gamble argument again :lol:.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 03:44 PM

£25 is already proving to be an almost suicidal step for the industry, people are wising up big time.

If they push a further increase and don't radically change the overall design and style of machines revenues will just fall ever further.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 03:46 PM

Back to 15 would be a good step to take.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 06:17 PM

I agree with fruitymad there i enjoyed the £15jp far maore than the £25 it was miles more fun

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 06:27 PM

i wouldn't care what the jackpot was as long as the machine used real skill features combined with true luck on the high lows or gambles...but Mr bellfruit would miss out on his holidays in the Maldives if his machines had a real element of skill about them! True random holds and nudges, high lows, win/lose...that would be a machine worth playing.... :twisted:
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Posted 24 October 2003 - 07:18 PM

I think the best jackpot level was missed completely. I would have liked a £12 JP. Don't laugh. It may sound odd but theres some reasoning here. Look at older machines like ACE's Twilight Zone, or PROJECT's 777 Heaven. The prize scale could have been simple and easy. Just like this.....


Doubled if Boxed
Mixed Boxes--------£1
Mixed 7's------------£2--------------£4
Single Bars----------£3--------------£6
Double Bars---------£4--------------£8
Triple Bars-----------£5-------------£10
Red 7's---------------£6-------------£12
Blue 7's--------------£6-------------£12

Quite a lot of machines used a similar set of symbols so it could have been a standard. A missed opportunity in my opinion.

As for Eurocoin, the loss of tokens on fruit machines was made up for with the advent of seaside bingo with token set-ups.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 08:29 PM

If they do increase the jackpot, will the stake go up also? When I am in England and play the fruities I avoid 30p machines with £25 jackpots. I see it as the machine companies grabbing as much as they can.

If I had my way we would be back to 20p play and £4.80 All cash Jackpot. That was the time when I could play the machines and not lose a great deal overall.

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Posted 24 October 2003 - 09:53 PM

You should check out our fabulous motorway service stations. They have all their machines set at 30p play with small £5 Jackpots. They also set them bang on the 70% mark too. You can easily spend a tenner on these and not even get on the feature board.

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 12:10 AM

oh yeah...and £2 for a coffee...so ya get screwed twice! :evil:
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Posted 25 October 2003 - 12:33 AM

LOL,

Surely everyone knows service stations r a rip off in all shape and manner... I mean nearly £10 for brekkie and a drink?!?! Come on!!!

As for the gamblers, IMO its as big a waste of time playing at a service station as it is going into one of those 'dedicated' arcades where as soon as you enter, the hobo's who live there clock you up and down and watch which machine your playing so they can clear it after you've left (Coz they're probably screwing the wenches that work there for inside info!!!)

TOTAL waste of time AND money... IMO...

As for 30p over 25p stake, in my experience you tend to get more play for the extra 5p....

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 07:16 AM

I remember some rumours from a while back [probably about a year ago], that the next upgrade would be £50JP at 30/50p stake....
Thankfully either someone was taking the piss, or it was decided it would be unrealistic/unfair, e.t.c

BTW...I usedta play fruities at train stations - normally decent machines, and they are either played by fools, or just people that bung a fiver in and then have to leg it for a train :)
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Posted 25 October 2003 - 08:07 AM

if they are changing the jackpots again why not make them all like bloody club machines? you know thats how badly they are going to play, they should make the jp £15 so at least people would use them regularly unlike a high jp machine that would not get used due to being a thieving bastard.

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 09:15 AM

Theres a fair few machines already set for 50p a play albeit, these are massive clubber machines usually on the ferries, with a £1000 jackpot. Theres one that was emulated a couple of months ago. I think it was a JPM ClubTHUNDERBIRDS running on JPeMu1.46

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Posted 25 October 2003 - 01:05 PM

They would have to increase the stake to make it seem as though the machine was playing well -
If I set my £5JP machine on 5p, I cant be bothered to play it -
I did set it to £5JP 20p, and it was hilarious, like a board every 6 spins :D

In the same sense, the £25JP machines have to be on 25p really - which gives say a board every 12 spins. The next 'upgrade' - or is the 'f**ked up rechip'? will have to keep players involved - making the board happen with the same frequency as would be expected on a £15JP but on a £30/£50 machine - and the only was I can see that happening would be to double the stake. I didn't just make the bit up about £50JP 50p a go, and even though it would seem unlikely and would be a huge disadvantage IMHO, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept it - imagine a 'suck mode' as I call it, on one of those machines - a suck mode generally being say 20 useless spins - that would be £10.

Mind you, last time I played a Hi-Lowatha I put £25 in, was offered 2 boards in total, one killing a £1.50 on a 2, and the other killing on £2.50 on a 3. Even though I find it hard to believe, it looks like things could get a whole lot worse!!!




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