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[ady]

Guys you all know I try staying neutral yeah?

If not well I do.......or I hope I do.........and for that reason i'm writing this..

This might not go down too well what-so-ever but I think FME needs a say-it-as-it-is member (sometimes in his opinion we may think it's well wrong) but....christ we arn't sheep are we?

This puts a whole different light on any given thread.....theres far too much arse licking (in plain English if you ask me!) to make threads realistic at times...

Theres a thread/release made and mainstream agrees..........One person speaks their mind and they are drawn 'n' quatered....

[mocochoco]

FME wouldnt be the same without alth lurking around lol:lol:

[mangolio]

Guys you all know I try staying neutral yeah?

If not well I do.......or I hope I do.........and for that reason i'm writing this..

This might not go down too well what-so-ever but I think FME needs a say-it-as-it-is member (sometimes in his opinion we may think it's well wrong) but....christ we arn't sheep are we?

This puts a whole different light on any given thread.....theres far too much arse licking (in plain English if you ask me!) to make threads realistic at times...

Theres a thread/release made and mainstream agrees..........One person speaks their mind and they are drawn 'n' quatered....

Not being funny ady but as far as I am concerned nearly every post by Alth is in some way disrespectful. I have nothing against the guy but just find it to be annoying and somewhat nasty to just slate another member for no reason.If all he wants to do is make a totally negative comment then that is fine, but nearly every comment is just a joke! Also the smugness of the guy knowing he is being an idiot and annoying other members is just uncalled for.

[mocochoco]

can i just suggest you take a look back at alths post for a second..... he said 'good effort' and then went on to say why he doesnt like hybrids (of which you will probly find every other hybrid release thread will have comments like that).

Tbh in his own way i think he was being kinda nice lol

[ross]

ive read most of that alot of fme history in there!

[Bencrest]

I do agree, thats why there was no moderator interaction (from myself at least) on this thread.

From an emulation point of view (which will be a 'purists' point of view) emulations sole objective would be to make the original machine (be it arcade, fruit machine, SNES, e.t.c) playable as it would have been were the original machine available, but on another platform (in this case, PC).

There is no real reason for emulating a machines ROMs and then shoving another machines artwork onto it - HOWEVER I also realise this is one of the few emulators where this is possible. Obviously when it comes to SNES for example - you emulate the ROMs only, you are purely displaying through a PC what the SNES would have outputted on it's screen.

Fruit Machine Emulation opens up other possibilities, due to the fact the visible part of the machine is lights and artwork, while the 'emulation' is really the electronic core of the machine.

Hang on, it's 11:30 at night and I'm blasted.

Anyway, long story short, 'hybrids' are not emulation. They are mock-ups. As such, they contribute *nothing* to the emulation scene, seek to confuse newbies, but do offer some people the chance to play a machine they remember if they keep the speakers off and forget it's really the ROMs from an indian takeaway rather than a pile of beaver.

There will always be a hostile reception to such things, and if you make Hybrids you will have to accept (IMHO) that as they are nothing to do with Fruit Machine Emulation, the FME community as a whole will reject them, whereas kids, newbies and people not interested in the main aims of emulation may embrace them.

[NickYerPesos]

Well ben... That is the best way that i have ever heard anyone put it...

I fully understand what your on about..

YET when sumone says its a pile of turd, that doesnt really explain a lot (which is y i got a bit annoyed) except the fact they dont like it... which is fair enuf.

YET wot ady sed... about not being a sheep etc, saying wots true...
I could have seen a really bad dx of a REAL EMULATION as you said, yet i would not go to this person...
"OI M8 YOUR WORK IS A LOAD OF SHIT", which is wot i felt alth did.
I would just say to myself, i dont like this, delete it, and be finished with the whole matter, because no matter wot emulation it is, hybrid, using proper rom etc, sumone has spent the time to do it, and thought that they would like to share it with other members, and dont deserve to be told where to stick there work.


Now then, lets finish this little matter, before sum1 gets hurt..

Nick

[NickYerPesos]

Surely you can see wot im saying in my last post..

The last thing i want to do is have a war with you man.. just keep your thoughts to yaself if they may offend others (or there work)... What wrong with that.

p.s. y should i learn to read...

Nick

[NickYerPesos]

Nice effort but as pointed out its not nowhere near Dambusters it looks like a turd, plays like a turd but then again its not Dambusters.

alth

Ok.. thanks for the compliment to start with,

However, this is the bit i was a bit annoyed with, if you meant the artwork of dambuster in general, e.g. what impulse made it look like, then fine, i appologise sincerly for making the wrong assumption, yet it seemed to me like you were dissing my work.

Like i said before, i dont want a war with you, i just want to get along with everyone and try an do things for the community, e.g, make new layouts.

Also, dont make more hassle for yourself by partronising others... plz, it aint a nice way to chat in forums...

(thats the first one) (thats the one after one) (thats the one after two)

Nick

[schnook]

I do agree, thats why there was no moderator interaction (from myself at least) on this thread.

From an emulation point of view (which will be a 'purists' point of view) emulations sole objective would be to make the original machine (be it arcade, fruit machine, SNES, e.t.c) playable as it would have been were the original machine available, but on another platform (in this case, PC).

There is no real reason for emulating a machines ROMs and then shoving another machines artwork onto it - HOWEVER I also realise this is one of the few emulators where this is possible. Obviously when it comes to SNES for example - you emulate the ROMs only, you are purely displaying through a PC what the SNES would have outputted on it's screen.

Fruit Machine Emulation opens up other possibilities, due to the fact the visible part of the machine is lights and artwork, while the 'emulation' is really the electronic core of the machine.

Hang on, it's 11:30 at night and I'm blasted.

Anyway, long story short, 'hybrids' are not emulation. They are mock-ups. As such, they contribute *nothing* to the emulation scene, seek to confuse newbies, but do offer some people the chance to play a machine they remember if they keep the speakers off and forget it's really the ROMs from an indian takeaway rather than a pile of beaver.

There will always be a hostile reception to such things, and if you make Hybrids you will have to accept (IMHO) that as they are nothing to do with Fruit Machine Emulation, the FME community as a whole will reject them, whereas kids, newbies and people not interested in the main aims of emulation may embrace them.

it might do you some good to nip over to the pinball emulation site.
because what happens here happens over there... roms might not be swapped out. but some tables use other sound roms and not technically perfect roms/code to recreate machines that can not be done as yet.
take a look at the simpsons pinball machines... 2 of em. 1 using the official roms. the other does not.. yet both are received with welcome arms.
this is the reason i left the fruit scene and now devote my efforts to pinball.




phew thats me posted for another 6 months.
bye

[Bencrest]

And you still think copying Pandy's nick will make people pay attention to you?

Funny enough I seem to remember you saying you used the Mythic0s name (vs Pandy's 'Mythicos') elsewhere... I nipped over to the Pinball Emulation site (I assume it's the same one you use) and theres noone there called Mythic0s. Funny thing that. Or anyone called Madman. Thats the problem with starting multiple accounts - do you expect people to listen to something irrelevant from someone with 28 posts?

Congratulations on adding another post to your account though, I will make you a nice shiny medal to go with it.

it might do you some good to nip over to the pinball emulation site.
because what happens here happens over there... roms might not be swapped out. but some tables use other sound roms and not technically perfect roms/code to recreate machines that can not be done as yet.
take a look at the simpsons pinball machines... 2 of em. 1 using the official roms. the other does not.. yet both are received with welcome arms.
this is the reason i left the fruit scene and now devote my efforts to pinball.




phew thats me posted for another 6 months.
bye

[schnook]

And you still think copying Pandy's nick will make people pay attention to you?

Funny enough I seem to remember you saying you used the Mythic0s name (vs Pandy's 'Mythicos') elsewhere... I nipped over to the Pinball Emulation site (I assume it's the same one you use) and theres noone there called Mythic0s. Funny thing that. Or anyone called Madman. Thats the problem with starting multiple accounts - do you expect people to listen to something irrelevant from someone with 28 posts?

Congratulations on adding another post to your account though, I will make you a nice shiny medal to go with it.

i must be missing something here. you went over to the pinball site to check if a mythicos existed over there or a mad man.
you may have seen madblast but that wasnt the question was it.
and i didnt use this nick to gain attention. i did to piss off the people on this board who WILL NOT LOOK OUT SIDE OF THE BOX . back on topic now.
so i can assume that you never actually looked at my example on the PINBALL EMULATION SITE vpforums.com.

simpsons party pinball table.
a table just out the same 3 year rule.
2 tables exist.
the first being a non rom based table playing simalar but the same as.
looking the same but not the same. and using homemade sounds and not exact rules.
the second is the real roms which are now available. and the real table graphics.
both were received with the same warm reception.
both were congratulated on.
both are downloaded and played.

there are even 1000,s of homemade pinball machines from creators
and yes pinball tables using the incorrect roms.

i left because of self appointed so called layout creators. some of whom create the same layout over and over, cant think beyond what the emulator can do.

now delete this account now. and i,ll see you in another 6 months.
maybe you might start advancing as a site and a community if you support the people who want to create instead of slating them.

rolf.


dont bother replying i only come in here every 3 months now to see if anything exciting happens.. never does... bye.

[ady]

now delete this account now. and i,ll see you in another 6 months.
maybe you might start advancing as a site and a community if you support the people who want to create instead of slating them.

erm then you'll need to create a new account........remember MYTHICOS is taken........pmsl as funny as JAYTHEBAKER who said he was going and tried acting like a 5 year old...........


FFS we are here for the Emu's, not to read about people saying 'delete my account' etc............don't like it then don't log in, easy really!

[schnook]

erm then you'll need to create a new account........remember MYTHICOS is taken........pmsl as funny as JAYTHEBAKER who said he was going and tried acting like a 5 year old...........


FFS we are here for the Emu's, not to read about people saying 'delete my account' etc............don't like it then don't log in, easy really!

still not answering my origial question. please read above.
and i already quit.
why i give no input to a dead board.
i was requesting the difference in the two emus using the same principles. roms with overlying grafix (although apart from 3 people and they are active in pinball now as well) could code. But why here they are not recognised and infact get slated, usually by the same turds as allways.
who just like to insult.

[mocochoco]

thought you were going?

[mythicos]

You must have bought the old monitor Mythicos used to work on though, so I expect a pair of sunglasses in the post

Another TFT user?

My monitor is a Philips 109b and it uses LightFrame2 or something..

It's very bright and colorful.. Far from old, I think I have had it about 3 years and its still as good as the day I bought it

Rid yourself of that TFT man