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[funy]

Ive been playing fruit machines now for just over a year, usually the £25 pub type ones and occasionally the £5 ones on the sea front arcades.

Ive only ever had two jps and that was on the £5 ones and i only ended up about £2 up :/.

Im just wondering if im doing anything wrong, I usually dont spend over £10-15 if the machine is being a bitch and just giveing me £4 here or there or easily kicking me.

Should I perservere?

Or get out before im really addicted! lol

Friends of mine have won a few £25 jps and one mate got a £60 streak on a mazooma once, but my highest win was about £18.

[Longpot]

Sounds like some sound advice from DAD there...

The way I see it don't gamble unless you can afford to lose... As for Mazooma.... those idiots can eat the peanuts outta my shit! They probably make some of the worst gamblers out there!!!!

Jack the Kipper being one of their more recent 2-bob efforts! No gameplay and no streak = 2-bob... like many mazooma machines :wink:

[Zoltar]

Machine manufactures are here to take your money...

Fruit machine owners are here to take your money...

The taxman wants to take your money...

The arcade owner sets the machine % to take more money...

The pro player wants to take your money...

After all that lot, I'm actually surprised theres anything left to win. If I knew back in 1980, what I know now, I'd be possibly £20,000plus richer!

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[Absolution]

Machine manufactures are here to take your money...

Fruit machine owners are here to take your money...

The taxman wants to take your money...

The arcade owner sets the machine % to take more money...

The pro player wants to take your money...

After all that lot, I'm actually surprised theres anything left to win. If I knew back in 1980, what I know now, I'd be possibly £20,000plus richer!

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Amen to that!!!! and yes, on a serious note in reply to the original poster, fruit machine addiction is bad, cost me a lot of money, and has nearly cost me a lot more, its took me a good 9/10 years to be able to control the addiction, I stil play a bit now, but always worry ill become totally hooked again, I allow myself a few pound when im out drinking to try and supress the urge, then of course the KICK ASS emulators/layouts by the guys on these forums more than help.

I dont think I would be going too far if I personally thanked all these guys for helping me spend less, hehe, but yes, to sum up, dont become addicted, you'll regret it, I did :/

[hurtand165]

if you are going to be addicted be addicted to the emulators and leave money out of it. as compost corner said only the machine owners and the taxman win when it comes to gambling.

[fruitymad2003]

Absolution Wrote:

Amen to that!!!! and yes, on a serious note in reply to the original poster, fruit machine addiction is bad, cost me a lot of money, and has nearly cost me a lot more, its took me a good 9/10 years to be able to control the addiction, I stil play a bit now, but always worry ill become totally hooked again, I allow myself a few pound when im out drinking to try and supress the urge, then of course the KICK ASS emulators/layouts by the guys on these forums more than help.

I dont think I would be going too far if I personally thanked all these guys for helping me spend less, hehe, but yes, to sum up, dont become addicted, you'll regret it, I did :/

I agree i am 18 yet and im addicted to them well not addicted but if i see one i am always looking at it and trying to fiqure it out.
Is that Addiction?

[lincs leisure R us]

i just wanna put all ur minds at ease i just wanna point out the way it works is that all machines have to pay a % BY LAW with the min of 70% and the max of 98% this LAW is governed by BACTA there is NO OTHER law for arcade owners nor single site operator's such as myself the min and max % is written in with the software and the company's have to ABIDE by the law to stay in buisness. i can point out arcade machines pay a higher % than of those in pubs and any other single site operation this is due to the fact that single site machines are in such a small area compared to arcades that it seems as though single site machines are tighter but at the end of the day single site machines DO STREAK MORE than arcade machines, technology has far zoomed ahead with machines having hidden features so as to advance the player.

[milky1000]

as a few have said , get out of the habit before its to late.... there is 3 reasons people play on machines ... you like the flashing lights and the challange ...... you want more money in your pocket than you have at the time, and finaly your addicted because of the other 2 reasons.

1st part is easy use the emulaters for that it costs nothing and you can have a challange 24/7..... but its the 2nd part that gets most, wanting a few extra quid in your pocket, well hopin you will, i`m guilty to lol 17 years of it . but 3-4 years staying away only wished i did it years n years ago .. all new people to it if they know about emulaters have a good start to stop or not do it, you have the machines infront of you now, not like us :-( .....
i say there is 1 question to ask yourself before you walk into any type of gambling place is to look at what money you have and say to yourself *do i realy need a few extra quid to get by?* more than likely you don`t, because when you walk into these places allways be prepared to walk out with nothing.

the thing about %, yegh he is right but they mislead you by making you think that its you that gets that ratio of %, don`t forget it goes for all who have played that machine earlier to, so 5 mins earlier someone could have had it on a roll, so there aint no way you are going to win , the 90% payout has just gone and it needs to get itself back on track so it can let someone else get it on a roll at a later time. i know i have rambled on but i couldn`t help it lol.

so get out while you can can, and don`t be a fool like so many of us have been

[Pgamblin]

*stands up from Chair* "Hi my name is Paul and i am a gambling Addict........"

Maybe it was fate to get addicted i dont know probably doesnt help that my surname is Gamblin.....

Anyway

Heed the advice of others and dont get addicted. I used to spend £30 a day on the machine even if i had dropped £50 the previous day i would still play it the next day and the next...


Anyone who says they are always up is either as liar or a cheat...

Take my advice and walk away... a couple of quid maybe your change from a pint fine but dont start changing up notes just to chase the big win because at the end of the day the winner is the Pubs/Clubs and the taxman......

Now my son go forth and spread the lords word.....

[barcrest]

Sounds like some sound advice from DAD there...

The way I see it don't gamble unless you can afford to lose... As for Mazooma.... those idiots can eat the peanuts outta my shit! They probably make some of the worst gamblers out there!!!!

Jack the Kipper being one of their more recent 2-bob efforts! No gameplay and no streak = 2-bob... like many mazooma machines :wink:

Is this the one that is the same as count your cash? If so then you'll find it does streak mate. I took one in Basingsoke for £100 for only £30 in... It plays just like count your cash if i am thinking of the right one. I do agree Mazooma machines are not the best but they do streak, Pacman + was another favourite. I would have to say that the worst machines at the moment tend to be Barcrest, QPS, Maygay and Bellfruit...

Seems to me the reason you are not getting any JP's is because it sounds like you are collecting low wins. If the machine is offering decent stuff from the start the general rule of thumb is to stick with it for the JP in the hope of kicking off a streak. If you collect £5 instead then the machine will most likley want £10 off you to get back to offering £5 again so you will never hit a JP... Obviously IM boards and hidden features etc can appear seemingly out of the blue but i think that collecting little wins is why you don't get any JP's

Like the others say if you can't afford to loose don't play, i have lost loads in fruities but i am not addicted. I often go out and don't play them, but if i do plan on playing them i will take £40 in pound coins and once i've lost them call it a day. Obviously you don't always loose them, if i do make a profit i try and change up leaving my £40 float... Otherwise your pockets will wear out LOL

[lincs leisure R us]

here's my story about fruit machines,

i am now 37 years old but when i was about 10 i used to have a big obsession with fruit machines, i was addicted to gaming machines, i used to dodge school,steal cash to maintain my addiction i even used to break into machines to gain cash at the age of 13 my addiction stopped because there is only 1 winner and thats the arcade owners. from the age of 15 i have worked in arcades as a floorwalker, cashier. but since the age of 17 i started to learn the technical side of things i learn't from scratch how a machine worked,running,% payout, repairs, rebuilding machines, conversions ect, ect. at the age of 19 i was made a manager for about 5 years in a big arcade complex, i then decided at 24 to own,run,maintain my own buisness in fruit machines,pinball,video's,sims,cd juke boxes.

i have been in the trade since i was 15 and still in operation to this day,
i regret my action's in my younger days but i pulled through.


i hope this story was of interest to u.


mark

[Zoltar]

i just wanna put all ur minds at ease i just wanna point out the way it works is that all machines have to pay a % BY LAW with the min of 70% and the max of 98% this LAW is governed by BACTA there is NO OTHER law for arcade owners nor single site operator's such as myself the min and max % is written in with the software and the company's have to ABIDE by the law to stay in buisness.

There is no law stating a machine has to pay between the minimum of 70% and a maximum of 98%. If I had 'doctored' a machine so it played at a maximum percentage of 10%, I would be breaking no law provided I labelled the machine to state that and had the relevent gaming licence.

The percentages a machine plays is a rule that has been 'adopted' not 'forced' upon the industry. Plus, the manufacturers building machines so you cannot set the percentages outside this 70% to 98% limit is entirely self imposed. So it's because of the limitations that the manufacturers have incorporated into modern gaming machines that stop unscrupulous arcade owners setting the percentages even lower.

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[funy]

thanks for all the replies was away for a bit.

I am lucky at the moment in that i know when to quit, ie when ive lost £15 for very little return. If you go over that yes there is a chance of winning more but also the chance ot loosing more! :/

Oh well

Must be somthing about the south east, mazoomas are everywhere.

As for the percentage thing, im sure i read that a machines percentage wasnt allowed to change, which i thought wasnt right and that machines always have and will change the percentage depending on whats inside.

[lozza]

So it's because of the limitations that the manufacturers have incorporated into modern gaming machines that stop unscrupulous arcade owners setting the percentages even lower.

That is with the exception of P&O Ferries, who had special software written to lower the % payout

[Zoltar]

I could see that being a possibility if the ferry itself is not UK registered. They could also be exempt from all UK regulations governing fruities and also immune to the taxman wanting a cut. Something to think about there.

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[Protocol]

i say don't even play fruit machines if u can afford it, cos thats the way i got kinda hooked. I would have like £200 on me and think, ok lets got the arcade and see if i can win anything, ofcourse, i lose (even if u win, ur come back again the following day, cos u will think that ur win again). When u lose say half of what u had, ur think, since im here might as well try my luck with the last 50% of my cash. Then u finally lose all of it and believe me...ur come back again...so either way, U LOSE. U start losing the minute u put a coin in them things.

So markus2506...im just wondering, ur an arcade owner..isn't it ironic that ur hearing all these ppl saying not to play on fruit machines? lol