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[MartinB]

Hi all,
Just purchased a nice old Barcrest Flash Cash fruit machine. Although it works and accepts coins, it does not pay out - it just makes the sound of a relay "clicking" as it counts the 10p's it should be paying.

I can only assume its the solenoid payout mech but neither the 10p or token payouts work, both just click. If it is can they still be sought/purchased?

There is no guide with the machine and being an older machine I have no idea how all the tests work, can anyone help or anyone got information on how you test the payouts and bulbs and general test routines? Also be helpful if I knew how to set the volume etc. on the older Barcrest machines (MPU4). All I can do is press a button in the back to go into free play test!

I intend to lovingly restore this great classic so any help apreciated on the problems.
Thanks! Martin

[cyberface]

when you say clicking, do you mean the meter? do the solidiods move at all?

if they do then maybe they just want cleaning, some solvent cleaner will do the trick.

if they dont move then could be a fuse on the power suply.

as for the volume there will either be a POT inside somewhere, or throught test.

there should be a switch somewhere inside marked up as test, but i have no idea where im afraid.

HTH

[lincs1]

first of all the clicking sounds like its the 10p out meter. check that the fuse for the pay outs has not blown u will find the fuse holder on the power supply.

the test button is in the back of the machine push it twice to enter test if u press it once it'll give u 20 free demo creds.

once in test select test 1 which is the payout test for the solornoids holds 1 - 2 - 3 will trigger each solornoid.

hope this helps


lincsleisure1

[lincs1]

the volume is on the programme card

[MartinB]

Thanks both, I'll try the fuse later. Easy volume control too it seems, I am use to the new Scorpion 4&5 electronic menu methods, I guess for older machines I should have expected classic technology !
Will be back for more help I am sure !
;-)

[lincs1]

yep tech changes all the time not like the old stone age tech pmsl


let me know if u need further help martin



lincsleisure1

[decaff]

Barcrest Flash Cash (the original 90's machine!)

Any chance of taking some pictures and uploading them please?

[skabaz]

it may also just be one of the wires have broken free from one of the solonoid paddles.

look at the £1tube and look at the base of it,there should be 2 wires connected to the solonoid.

baz

[Zoltar]

Flash Cash eh? Is there any chance you could be so kind as to post some great quality photo's of this machine so we can have a butchers? This is one of those early MPU4 machines that could really do with a 21st century overhaul by having a new DX made.

[MartinB]

It was the fuse blown in the power supply (48v) - will buy one today and try it. In the 10p tube a large screw was stopping the 10p's too from working, but manual tries of the mech proves them all working now. Also (Baz) your right the paddle connectors were off on two coils/solenoids and one of them (the £1 payout) the windings are a bit split and broken! Hopefully if this does not work just a single new or reconditioned payout will fix this. I will let you know how I get on.

I changed about 30 light bulbs too!! every lamp working brightly now. Also fixed the token mech which had a spring-clip broken on the reject mech, that works fine now. Once the payout works, and a new bottom door lock a good clean from about 15 years of dust and she'll be in good shape!

As for posting pictures, no problems can you tell me how/where and when back in one piece I'll do it.

Thanks for all the help so far!

Cheers! Martin

[Zoltar]

You should be able to post them to this thread using the 'Post Attachment' option if I'm not mistaken. May be better to attatch them as zips. I think a larger file size is allowed for this format. I'm sure Ady will put me right if I'm incorrect.

But it would be lovely to see a top notch DX of Flash Cash as the version(s) we have suffered somewhat due to the quality of the flyers.

Cheers.

[MartinB]

Machine is now fully operational, pay out works, all bulbs changed and tokens working too. What a classic this machine really is!

Attached are some images, let me know if any good or I can re-try when we get lighter brighter days! cheers & Merry Christmas! Martin.

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[nails]

those picks bought back vivid memories of coming home from clubbing, eating a kebab in one had and playing the machnie in the other.

the upper most kebab house, preston street brighton. fantastic.

[Zoltar]

Machine is now fully operational, pay out works, all bulbs changed and tokens working too. What a classic this machine really is!

Attached are some images, let me know if any good or I can re-try when we get lighter brighter days! cheers & Merry Christmas! Martin.

Pics are reasonable and usable but I doubt they would improve on what we already have DX'd. A few tips on getting some better pics though......

1 Make sure your camera is set up for the maximum resoulution. This makes an incredible difference when or if they need sharpening up. The bigger the images, the better. And don't shrink them to post them here if thats what you had to do. Theres places and methods that will allow the transfer of larger files or bigger photos.

2 It's a good idea if the pics are taken with the machine switched off. It's very difficult trying to lamp areas that are already lit. Like in your photo's.

3 Concentrate on taking individual pics of the top glass and same with the bottom glass. The bigger the images, the better. Full machine shots tend to have less 'small detail' in the photos.

4 Flash burn is a problem. But the magic of Photoshop can easily remedy pictures that are not taken square on. Maybe take 1 photo slightly from the right and another from the left. If the colour and brightness is the same, both pictures can be cut and edited to make a single higher quality one.

Of course, I myself am just grateful to have the possibility of some corking pictures for this machine and I'm in no way being negative here. But I can't resist trying to get the best pictures possible from you seeing as you have the actual machine at home. I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from.

Who knows, If the pictures are of an exceptional quality, I may even be tempted to come out of retirement and make a DX of this.

Many thanks.

[MartinB]

No worries, I completley understand and glad for the feedback - I will have another go with a better digi. camera, it won't be until later next week/weekend but I will remember so as to get you out of retirement ;-)

Martin.

[superbank]

Thanks for the photo's Martin - great to see that machine again. There used to be one in my local YEARS ago and I used to play it (and lose on it) regularly.

Aaaah, the memories!

Good work fella

[DaemonX]

One other suggestion, following on from CC's, if you can't get a decent picture, again, try taking two, cut the top into left and right sides, they can be stitched together if reasonably straight, also, the smaller sections like the wins and the coins are often neglected, when DX'in and aren't as clear as they could be. This may be worth having a separate pic.

Might just be my eyes or me being picky lol.

[Gazeyre1966]

Whilst not wishing to put anyone off from DX'ing this excellent machine there is a good one available in the meantime from baz in case anyone missed it first time around.

http://www.fruit-emu...s&showfile=2005

[Zoltar]

Whilst not wishing to put anyone off from DX'ing this excellent machine there is a good one available in the meantime from baz in case anyone missed it first time around.

http://www.fruit-emu...s&showfile=2005

Aye. Indeed there was. IIRC, Pook also did this one a few years ago. I'm sure Baz will remember how grainy the artwork was and will agree if we can get some teriffic photo's, then an update would be most welcome.

[zorromayor]

its fine