The_Jimster

ken
i picked up on the point you made about no such thing a a "total" empty of a machine as i agreed with that point, yet i have to question the point you make on the last post regards emptying a hopper as in the machine has to be ready or that the owners will still make a profit - this is not quite correct

if you get an emptier ( when i use this term i mean in the sense that everyone usually means - ie emtpy the hopper ) lets say it is a free win one

machine owner puts new machine in site - fills hopper ( to start off to make sure ppl play his new machine )
fills it with £125 coins - and you come along ang empty the hopper with your free win - machine does not record ( for percentage ) the payouts - so is still running to percentage - maybe even a little low so requires to pay some more and the guy is down £125 coins - and it is still wanting to pay ( as you have taken a whole load of free wins it still thinks it needs to pay something )

this way - machine was not ready to pay - nor does the owner make a profit

i have put this into a simple setting to show the example but i hope you get what i mean ?

nails - did you read what he said ???

you go to your machine with its note changer so yeh, £250 in the hopper - but what if there was already £200 in the cash box ???

i am curious how you are going to get the 200 from the cashbox ???
big wow you can empty the hopper - bit i am impressed if u know an emptier that can get the coins out of the cashbox ??

so by my ( and kensplace2 ) minds that makes £200 left in a machine....not empty

there is also SAS in glasgow - aka..
select amusements

they are based in glasow - http://www.selectamuse.co.uk/

there is also http://www.react-transport.co.uk/

they can do delivery for fruit machines all over the uk ( based in edinburgh i think ) i used them to ship a machine for me....took a few weeks!!! but at least it got here - select amusements ( ithink ) also use these ppl to do delivery

later
j